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Sep 11, 2026

Filipe BertiGUEST
45:18
You know, like that's a case of ecosystem.
Filipe BertiGUEST
45:22
You know, you have access to the main European sovereign clouds like Hetzner, OVH, us, like UpCloud, and you can do cool stuff there.
Filipe BertiGUEST
45:31
And I think Europe is being, you know, on the vanguard of that.
Filipe BertiGUEST
45:37
We should be proud and take it further.
Allan JudeHOST
1:24
But the big one is a software company called Softaculous, which makes a virtualization management software called Virtualizor that is used by a bunch of places to manage their virtual environments.
Allan JudeHOST
1:37
basically had the IP range they host at Hetzner hijacked by a different provider, and then malicious software updates for their software deployed to their customers.
Allan JudeHOST
1:49
So any customer who tried to update their virtualizer software would basically get routed to the right IP address and the right domain name, but pointing to the wrong server because of the BGP hijack, and then download malware in place of the update for the software they were trying to install.
Allan JudeHOST
2:07
Of course, this is only possible because Softaculous doesn't sign their updates in any way and basically relied only on TLS to verify that the other side was actually their server.
Allan JudeHOST
2:54
Although in this case, it's not the standard one.
Allan JudeHOST
2:57
So Hessner was actually deploying the routing PKI stuff to say, here's a signed list of places that are actually allowed to publish routes for this block of IP addresses.
Allan JudeHOST
3:09
The issue turned out to be that Hetzner's rule did allow more specific routes within that block.
Allan JudeHOST
3:16
So they have a slash 16 that they announce and they have it RPKI'd, but the attackers were allowed to broadcast a slash 24 that was more specific and hijack only that one part of the subnet.
AlanHOST
1:21
Yeah, this one involves a whole cast of characters, but the big one is a software company called Softaculous, which makes a virtualization management software called Virtualizor that is used by a bunch of places to manage their virtual environments.
AlanHOST
1:37
Basically had the IP range they host at Hetzner hijacked by a different provider, and then malicious software updates for their software deployed to their customers.
AlanHOST
1:49
So any customer who tried to update their Virtualizor software would basically get routed to the right IP address and the right domain name but pointing to the wrong server because of the BGP hijack, and then download malware in place of the update for the software they were trying to install.
AlanHOST
2:07
Of course, this is only possible because Softaculous doesn't sign their updates in any way and basically relied only on TLS to verify that the other side was actually their server.
AlanHOST
2:48
Of course, they were only able to hijack the IP address because of BGP security issues.
AlanHOST
2:54
Although in this case, it's not the standard one.
AlanHOST
2:57
So Hetzner was actually deploying the routing PKI stuff to say, "Here's a signed list of places that are actually allowed to publish routes for this block of IP addresses." The issue turned out to be that Hetzner's rule did allow more specific routes within that block.
AlanHOST
3:16
So they have a slash 16 that they announce, and they have it RPKI'd, but the attackers were allowed to broadcast a slash 24 that was more specific and hijack only that one part of the subnet.
Jarrett KeiferGUEST
25:16
We're still relying on step functions.
Jarrett KeiferGUEST
25:20
We have had conversations of, well, what do we do if we want to switch to Azure? Do we just implement everything in Azure managed services? If we do that and then someone says we want to move to some, I don't know, bare metal servers in Hetzner or something, it's like, well, then we don't have a solution.
Jarrett KeiferGUEST
25:39
So do we target Kubernetes again? What do we do? So I don't think we have a great answer to that at the moment either.
Jarrett KeiferGUEST
25:48
There's a lot of benefit from using the managed services and just having something that's very targeted because it keeps the code base very simple.
Eamon ElsuaHOST
89:10
There are things to take care of.
Eamon ElsuaHOST
89:12
And this attacked a major provider, Hetzner.
Eamon ElsuaHOST
89:16
So, like, there's a lot of companies on Hetzner.
Eamon ElsuaHOST
89:20
So, yeah, I find it very interesting.
Adrian SanabriaHOST
89:23
Yeah, it's like a European AWS, not quite.
speaker_0NARRATOR
0:52
In a sophisticated supply chain attack, hackers hijacked a portion of internet space to install malware on networks.
speaker_0NARRATOR
0:59
They exploited weaknesses in the routing security of Hetzner Online and the TLS certificate process, allowing them to control IP addresses assigned to Softicalis.
speaker_0NARRATOR
1:09
This UAE-based company provides cloud management software, and the hijacked IPs were used to push malware disguised as legitimate updates.
speaker_0NARRATOR
1:18
The attack highlights vulnerabilities in internet routing protocols, emphasizing the need for stronger security measures.
Alan PopeHOST
29:10
Yeah, I know, right? So what I did was deploy a Docker instance from the upstream images.
Alan PopeHOST
29:22
on my favorite Hetzner box over in Germany, but I didn't really want to host all of the media on that box.
Alan PopeHOST
29:32
And so what I did was I used our favorite S3 block storage platform where we store all the audio files.
Alan PopeHOST
29:41
I thought, well, let's be consistent.
Dan GishGUEST
10:34
If you have a Mac at home that's always online, that could be a good way to go.
Dan GishGUEST
10:37
I personally install it on a cheap VM, on a Hetzner VM in the cloud, and that allows me to just install a progressive web app on my phone.
Dan GishGUEST
10:50
So it seems just like a normal app on my phone.
Dan GishGUEST
10:54
It's running off of my own VM in the cloud.
Dan GishGUEST
11:07
Yeah.
Dan GishGUEST
11:09
Again, I have instructions for your coding agent on the GitHub.
Dan GishGUEST
11:16
that'll set up a Hetzner VM in the cloud, do all this stuff for you.
Dan GishGUEST
11:21
So it's literally just like a one-click kind of thing.
Igor KravchukHOST
9:28
And these will usually be co-locating many different independent workloads.
Igor KravchukHOST
9:36
So if you think of a large provider in Europe, it's Hetzner.
Igor KravchukHOST
9:43
They have a data center in Frankfurt.
Igor KravchukHOST
9:45
That will power most of central Europe.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
16:41
And ARM VPS instances are getting more common.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
16:44
Hetzner's got ARM boxes.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
16:46
Oracle Cloud's free tier is ARM.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
16:49
The Raspberry Pi as a home server is a whole ecosystem.

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