Henry Mcfadden

Yeah.

So Jason Zales was here for 10 days, and now I'm here with Henry McFadden and Liam Custer.

So Henry's, Henry's gonna race in Nationals next week, and then he's got Pan Pacs.

Liam's gearing up for European Championships, which happens to-

Yeah, I mean, I think what you're talking to, you're, you're starting to speak to culture, and it's a perfect pivot to sort of the next direction I want to take here in the interview.

Um, and to give people a little bit of background, I've buried the lead on this a little bit.

I mean, you and I met actually, uh, for the first time because I was working with Henry McFadden when he was a high school athlete, and then in through his first year there at Stanford.

Um, and I think I reached out to you when he was still in high school, when he was still-- I think it was January of his senior year was the first conversation we had.

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Stanford came out, um, and M- Henry McFadden and I are, are really good friends.

We actually roomed together.

Okay.