Helmet

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whereas you listen to that, it is like... again it's like having your soul just chucked in a wood chipper do you know yes absolutely oh yeah and i that's what kind of what i love about that this is a thing that like this is pre-new metal yes terminology right i think that's one of the things we should say like new metal was not a terminology at this point no and i kind of although I see the influence it's had on new metal, I kind of listen to it and it's about, it's when people say Helmet and like, oh, they're a proto new metal band.

And it's like, they're not.

Like,

All the like British stuff was great.

But like drumming wise, when Helmet.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Motley

Crue.

Motley Crue, Helmet.

Motley Crue, Helmet.

They're kind of like a thrashy, shouty, hardcore-y band, but with some cool personality out of Mike Muir there.

And then another one that we loved seeing happen was Helmet with Meantime going gold, August 4th, 1993, certified gold, you know, kind of like droney, non-melodic, grungy, math rock, kind of cool band.

But this is happening before we get the magazine going.

But I remember there being a lot of push on for Betty And the subsequent albums, they're on a major label at this point.

I mean, this is when they started, though.

After the band completely recorded and toured with Korn and Helmet in 97, critics reacted unfavorably to performances of Korn and Limp Bizkit.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel music critic John Gibbertson criticized Durst's performance, stating, quote, the one attention-grabbing moment of Limp Bizkit's rap thrash show was when the lead singer expressed a desire for gay men to be stomped.

which isn't remotely rebellious, it's just putrid.

The, I, I, I, when, when Slip came out I, it was my senior year in high school and then going into my year, um, my, my freshman year in college, and I think one of the things I experienced, and I was in, in Buffalo, were all the bands, like like-minded bands on, of your time, of that time were coming through.

So I got to see you guys with Helmet and Orange 9mm.

I got to see Sick Of It All like 10 times.

I got to see Shelter a bunch.

Um, a- and there was just this community still, uh, of these bands and these people who, who brought it all together.

Um, you guys were touring monsters back then it seemed, like you were always out there.

And, and for some reason in my head you're always kinda connected to, to, to Helmet too, whether it's the-

Yeah

And then...

Besides the overseas influences like Helmet or Fugazi or...

I'm a big fan of Radio

Birdman.

Yeah, isn't it?

Yeah.

Like, it's, you know, I remember us all, me, Herb and Steve and Ben, we went and seen Beastie Boys and Helmet at the Horton Pavilion.

Crazy, isn't it?