Helen Rosner

And it makes for a really rich, interesting kind of writing about restaurants, because it's so layered with references to books and movies and people, and I just, I'm so grateful.

And I would say to other editors, like- Helen Rosner, who we all love, said this to me.

She was like, "You can't really seek out a Jay.

Like, they come into your life, and you have to sort of decide-

Yeah.

It's funny, uh, Helen Rosner of The New Yorker did a great piece on like frozen yogurt and how like every generation gets the froyo it deserves, which I thought was like very funny.

That's a good point.

But she said she was like, she was like, "You could practically like taste the probiotics in the Go Greek." [laughs]

[laughs] Yes.

Yes.My friend Helen Rosner once told me all food writing is just, uh, is just ruminations on memory.

And, like, it was definitely true of phones, right? You show me the name of a phone, and I, like, am a young man again, like Ratatouille.

You show me this, and I'm like, "Yeah, that didn't work either," and, like, nothing-