Helen O'Connell

And this is the little piece that I was warning that there might be some conversation.

With my partner at the time in late 1990s, I realized that I'm learning something new about hair and from hair way before Helen O'Connell did MRI on clitoris.

And I realized, oh, women can be orgasmic.

And how interesting and amazing is that? No one mentioned that to us.

I want to talk about pain because that's a little too close to gender violence in a way.

So the first episode of Women Like Sex was intentionally, she was not the first interview, with Dr. Helen O'Connell.

the woman who correctly mapped the anatomy of the clitoris.

And when I tell people, they're like, oh, it's about her.

Being like, what you don't need is any, and I hate the term foreplay.

I will not use the word foreplay anymore.

And it was when I was talking to Helen O'Connell, preparing for that, I was like, Oh, my God.

It just means that it's the appetizer before the main meal.