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Oct 9, 2026
Ben McDonaldHOST
Mm-hmm
Jordan CooperGUEST
... kind of getting at? So that comes from Luther's Heidelberg Disputation, which is, what, 1518.
Jordan CooperGUEST
I mean, that's very, that's very early Luther.
Jordan CooperGUEST
Now, I think that that, in the 20th century, that theme has actually been totally misunderstood per- personally.
Jordan CooperGUEST
If, if you look at the, the theologian of the cross, theologian of glory distinction, uh, in history, you actually find that it plays essentially no role in Lutheran theology historically at all.
Jordan CooperGUEST
I mean, it just doesn't.
Jordan CooperGUEST
It, the Heidelberg Disputation-
Ben McDonaldHOST
Yeah, the distinction between the two.
Kyllum LewisHOST
That's me.
Kyllum LewisHOST
Martin Luther in fifteen eighteen in the Heidelberg Disputation wrote this, this conflicting framework which is so helpful to think through, and he kind of compared these two ways to God.
Kyllum LewisHOST
There is the theology of glory and there is the theology of the cross.
Kyllum LewisHOST
The theology of glory is, [clears throat] in our human attempt, we climb the hill.
Aaron ZimmermanHOST
Yeah, I can speak from experience for sure.
Aaron ZimmermanHOST
Yeah, I mean, this is Luther's Heidelberg Disputation.
Aaron ZimmermanHOST
My righteous acts are probably the thing that's making me fall away from God.
Aaron ZimmermanHOST
And my mortal sins are the things where God is working and bringing me actually closer because that's the place where I realize my need and I – I depend on God, not on myself.
Caleb KeithHOST
Today, we are talking about the cross of Christ.
Caleb KeithHOST
And we led up to this in the last several episodes too with some phrases that I think people will recognize and some themes that we are returning to that we've talked about in the past, including things like being a theologian of the cross or what it means to become a theologian of the cross, particularly talking about Luther, early in the Reformation, so before the bondage of the will, and becoming aware of this distinction on justification or the cross, viewing the cross, turning to the cross, But in talking about mysticism and the new Kabbalah and things like that, I think today we have to talk about differences in theologies of the cross and the different ones that exist out there, not just from Luther and the Heidelberg Disputation, but theories that arise.
Caleb KeithHOST
Luther's more Augustinian approach that then is transformed the more and or that the bondage of the will and justification become clear during the Reformation.
Caleb KeithHOST
And I think the first problem that we then talk about today is the viewing the cross, so that the eyes turning towards to the cross and the problem of desirability when it comes to the cross.
R. Scott ClarkHOST
Sin is death, and so we're all dead by nature in sins and trespasses.
R. Scott ClarkHOST
And so Luther said about 1518, I think in the Heidelberg Disputation, and he said it later as well, that the doctrine of free choice, as it came to be articulated by many medieval theologians, is a fiction.
R. Scott ClarkHOST
It's a name.
R. Scott ClarkHOST
It doesn't have any substance whatsoever.
Wilson Van HooserHOST
He was the father of Jesse, the father of David.
Wilson Van HooserHOST
When Martin Luther was defending the biblical doctrine of God's word, of many different doctrines he was having to defend against the Roman Catholic Church, when he was at the Heidelberg Disputation in 1518, when Luther was defending the doctrine, in the audience sat a man by the name of Martin Busser.
Wilson Van HooserHOST
In 1538, so 20 years later, when John Calvin was expelled from his pulpit in Geneva, it was Martin Busser who invited John Calvin to come stay with him in Strasbourg.
Wilson Van HooserHOST
When John Calvin finally returned to Geneva years later, a Scottish exile by the name of John Knox fled to Geneva to stay with Calvin.