Heat treating

And I basically don't have to do any stropping because there is almost no burr left.

and it's also very tight in with the heat treatment that is done to the blades if you have very low retained austenite on the blades they tend to do not create as of a big burr as of other kind of heat treatment regiment knives so this is extremely good and i just do like a couple strops on a leather strop that has that has been impregnated with uh one micron diamond liquid media whatever thingy and it's amazing i mean it's so and it looks so sexy it looks so sexy it looks amazing but man i'm going insane i'm just going insane i have to like we are recording on what is thursday right on thursday until end of this week i have to send out like 100 knives to heat treat so i can work on my handles and my sheets and i'm not bringing 100 knives to knife show austria i'm not bringing that much but i have like outstanding distributor orders and yada yada so i have to have some quite good inventory uh so it's been just a lot of time a lot of work and today has been just you know i'm just i'm just thinking today i've been sandblasting like 40 blades and i must say sandblasting i hate it i hate it so much it's terrible it's such a chore to do have you ever tried to sandblast an lmax blade it sucks ass it's i mean it's terrible you think it would be kind of a shortcut to do a you know sandblasted surface finish but the scale that you get from the mill it's nasty it takes a lot of time and i would like i would like to grind the surfaces of my blades but i have kind of an issue to get proper belts that would be in a grade of like 220 that they that that they do not clog up too quickly because if you do a 120p finish which is great for like removing material and cleaning up the surface but it's too rough it's rough and then then what what you are doing you are exchanging your time instead of sandblasting you are doing surface grinding so you know i've been i've been calling a couple of companies maybe they can do surface grinding for me because i would love you know it's a business i need to you know calculate my time and my effort if i can send out 100 blades to them and they can do a 220 equivalent surface finish and then make my maybe tumbling maybe sandblasting work easier i would be so happy i would happy i would be so happy to not do sandblasting and do tumbling after that because i don't have to do shit and the machine is just running so basically the idea is still the same my guys press a button and a knife comes out

send him to albert he's got all that stuff he doesn't want to do 100 bleeds

yeah and i will be need to wait for him to do that he's a very busy guy he's such a very busy guy you know he does classes he has no time to stand in front of a surface grinder and you know do this all kind of and then he sends me them back and i say but they are magnetic you need to demagnetize them and blah blah blah you know and know

But now I am outsourcing.

I'm just sending them out for people who can handle it, who have liquid nitrogen properly, they do it.

They do a world class heat treatment.

So I'm like, I'm going to pay.

I'll give you an example.

We had Heat Treat.

And in Heat Treat, we would stack all these stacks of metal rings that would have to be lowered down into a furnace.

And...

You know, we had a lot of rules for the stacks because you're trying to maximize how many things you can fit into the furnace.

And if there was a problem like it fell over or something got damaged or didn't get heat treated properly, Well, how do you know how it was stacked? Like, we do lots of stacks every day and run them through there, and then it comes back up, and you really don't know what it looked like beforehand.

And when we were having this problem, one of the guys was like, well, let's just take a picture of all of them.

And they're like, oh, you got to take a picture and upload it.

We are already starting to talk to the mills, obviously, again for next year.

This last week, I went and visited one of the Heat Treat mills, and they're booked.

I mean, they're looking for business to stay like this through 27 into 28, right? So I've heard some people say 27 is going to be similar to 26, but 28, going to be even tougher, right? So we're really trying to see what we can do.

So for you customers that use your heat-treated plate, like your 6061 plate, your 2-series plate, your 7-series plate, I would recommend getting volumes together.

Obviously, Constellium, same situation.

Kaiser is booked up.

Um, yeah, it, the heat treated plate because of all the areas.

I mean, it doesn't happen that you have all these areas, semiconductor, defense, space, you know, everything going, aerial space, all going at the same time and it's going all at the same time.

And it's like a lot of people don't.

Who would like come in and hear work like they don't necessarily know what's happening at the top level They just know here's the parts run the parts and that's what TJ said or whatever, which I don't like and so Obviously what's going on in my head is some sort of system and the goal with the ERP is to materialize it into a software so it's like off load it from the brain make it into a software system and And then my requirements as far as memorization and counting and making sure we have this and that, all the way down to what is a heat treat? That's something I keep track of as a mental note in my mind.

And we have myself, my wife, and my sister that may go and get it.

And so it's like, who's going to go get it? What's there? Oh, while you're there, make sure you go to WaterJet.

Right.

And so that's very different than a sheet where you look at like a sheet, you still have to make decisions based on all that data.

I want the decisions to be like pre-programmed and made based on how much we have in inventory, how much is it heat treat, how much is there and everything.

So an example would be we do a drop every single week, right? And so we have on our screen at any one time on the CRP four weeks.

I only have one and I really wish I had a second.

And I am doing heat treating for other people like Nuge and Walker and, you know, other guys.

And none of their blades are 27 inches long.

And when you're doing stainless, you can't really double stack in

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