Headless software

Um, but it's done a pretty darn good job of it out of the gate.

So building on that, the, uh, the boss man, Marc Benioff over at Salesforce, has really gotten conviction around headless software.

Yeah.

And, um, I- I would assume, reading between the lines, that one of the reasons he can say that Salesforce as a, a CRM or plus plus may recede into the background as a system of record, as a system for analytics, et cetera, um, is because he also owns the asset called Slack [chuckles] which is essentially, you know, the headless harness, the kind of the new way of interacting with software, and it's Slack's job to go and surface all this information, like in the story you-