Hayden Hawks

Yeah, but I'll caution you there because the 200 does seem to have a bigger weight for sleep deprivation and how quickly you can manage aid stations.

I can't, I mean, just because like somebody, you know, like Hayden Hawks is great at like blistering Western states with your aid station efficiency or, you know, Vincent, like the 200 is an entirely different race dynamic.

And we're talking 250 plus.

So not even the 200, like, you know, like that's another annoying fact that we say 200 and, you know, it's 254 change or whatever it is usually at Cocodona.

I'll share here.

My coach is Hayden Hawks.

Yes.

Hayden Hawks is a top US ultra runner and coach, but very down to earth.

Very cool

name.

You popped onto the scene with a dub at Speed Goat.

You took some second at the Broken Arrow 46 game to Hayden Hawks back in the day.

That was also the first and last time I ever beat David, too.

David Sinclair at that race.

It was like 7 a.m.

It was with Hayden Hawks at the Hoka Fly Lab.

It was just a 6K out.

Pretty simple, right?

Second time champion CCC, the first woman to win two times at CCC.

Only Hayden Hawks has been a two-time champion at CCC.

What did it feel like, what did it mean to you to emerge back into Chamonix as a champion again?

Oh, unbelievable, unreal.

in a way that American culture, we don't necessarily have that.

I was saying to Hayden Hawks earlier in the week, we were talking about this, I was like, you know, if you were French, you know, you'd be on the, you know, the cable, the equivalent of the Today Show.

You'd have millions of followers or whatever.

People like Baptiste, François D'Haene, like, they're legends and icons beyond just the niche sport.

Yeah, she did the, she did the Norwegian row celebration with the fans at the finish, which was amazing.

By the way, she's, um, alongside Hayden Hawks, she's now the only two-time winner of this event.

Wow.

Which is really cool.

I'm on my last warning, basically.

Um, but anyway, welcome to the Run Centered podcast with me, Ben Mouncey, Gary House, and the most special guest today, we've got Hayden Hawks, Tom Evans.

Let's have a round of applause, please.

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