Hastings Ismay, 1st Baron Ismay

And it was under the threat of NATO control.

And in fact, the founding, the first general secretary of NATO, Lord Ismay, was Churchill's military chief of staff during World War II, he drafted a program that was supposed to go into effect right after the war ended of an invasion of the Soviet Union.

And fortunately, Eisenhower and others said, forget it.

But Ismay, when he was asked to describe what's the point of NATO, he said, it's to keep the United States in Europe, the Soviet Union out, and the Germans down.

That's been the policy since 1953 when Ismay said that.

That's been the policy.

So when you have a German politician speaking about the importance of the German-Russian relationship, that doesn't mean they're a communist.

If it's NATO, then America and therefore our bestest friends, the Brits, are still dominant on the continent over the Germans.

That was as the British Lord Ismay had said during the foundation of NATO back in 1949, I believe is when he coined the phrase.

He said, the purpose of NATO is to keep the Americans in, the Germans down, and the Soviets out.

And so this is the same thing, only now it's the Russians.