Harvey Smith

I think it's the right approach.

I think as soon as you try to make a product, as opposed to think as a creative, as an artist, I was talking about this with Harvey Smith, my friend, a few weeks ago, and we were like, Yeah, this industry is trying to cater to just like making a product.

Initially, we did not think in those terms.

We were just making something that we thought would be something interesting or something good or something expressive from an artistic standpoint or something that needed to see the day.

First of all, I was not the only one.

It's a culture of company, right? It's a company culture that we've created since Arx Fatalis.

And then at some point, we had Harvey Smith joining, who was the lead designer on Deus Ex.

And it's not an accident.

I think that's what's so cool.

Interesting, we had Arcane on, not Arcane, we had Harvey Smith on, and we talked about Redfall, right? And they, you know, he said, look, we're disappointed how it ended up and what happened, how disappointing it was, but actually the journey was great.

And it was kind of a, it was a very refreshing view on it.

It's not really about the destination.

I'm much more interested in why they came back and what they're doing.

So, like, for instance, one, one announcement that happened that was great was, like, Harvey Smith, now granted he never really left game dev, but he just announced that they're making a whole big new ImSim studio specifically to make good ImSims like Prey.

And it's like, "Oh, I know exactly what that is.

Okay, awesome." Like, "Let's go.