How do I cook the dinner?

Yeah.

So very basically, you need a backup plan.

So you could either be using, you know, a, a, a yellow butane canister outside that could be, be providing your gas for your, for your house, right? Or you could just have a backup plan of having a camping stove, making sure you've got the gas, making sure you've got the things so that when you need to- Mm-hmm ...

you can bring that camping stove in or just outside the house, you know, um, and be able to cook your food while the power's out.

You need the pots, the pans, you need the things to make it that you can cook a good meal that no one is worried about how that's gonna work.

But the other side of that is when the power goes out, your fridges and freezers stop working- Yes ... as well, right? So what do we do with them? So we can either...

Don't miss a night with Fontaines D.C.

You look it

up.

Yeah, you look it up.

You ask someone who knows how to do it.

You find out what you need to know.

You find out what tools you need to learn how to use and how you're going to put it together.

Learning stuff is hard and it's terrifying.

So what do we do now? How do we put our our kind of our go to kit together now? And realistically, what are we looking at cost wise?

You know, just what was that like initially? in coming into contact with your parents, building their own home, and just maybe even your relationship with building, because obviously it's such a considerable, had such a considerable influence in so many different ways that you're alluding to.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think the answer's as exciting as you'd hope.

Like, it was just the most normal thing in the world for me.

I literally grew up with scrap wood, scrap offcuts of metal and different building materials as the building blocks that I played with.

I would be sitting there in the pile of sand on the construction site playing with these things while my parents built the house there.

And then...

So it was just the most normal thing in the world to me.

exactly yeah

You've seen people with very little who are still incredibly happy, and then you come back and people are complaining about [laughs] the stupidest things, and your, your, your brain must have been kind of different when you left there.

Totally.

And, you know, I guess that, that time in Kenya was quite intense because that was, that was in 2008, and I don't know if, if you remember this time, but there were these election riots that happened in 2008 in Kenya, and the whole, the whole country was kind of up in flames.

There were these two warring, uh, tribes, if you like.

Everyone still associates themselves with, with the tribal family that they come from.

And so within a few months of me getting there, there were these riots.

And so as a, as a very fresh 18-year-old, first time really traveling alone and, and going on my, my own trip and seeing really, really insane things, seeing people get killed, seeing, seeing trucks getting driven off the road, seeing petrol stations get blown up, all kinds of crazy things that happened as part of this, and finding my way to work through it and find the good and find the good people and still do good work and, and navigate all of that was-was a lot.

Mm-hmm.