Harris Savides

And, um, so yeah, by the end I was just like, I don't, I'm exhausted.

And then I met the great cinematographer, Harris Savides.

We were doing a commercial and started talking about, um, a way to make a film like the most minimal way and then my next film i got excited about trying to make a film and like the most minimal like two characters in one room and so i think my projects always inform each other and i think by the end you're like i never want to do that again and then you of course it's um you know addictive and it's always fun to think about how you can make something or when a story gets my mind how to do it

finding that balance between the two yeah