Oh, no.

And so I was drawing on that a lot.

But then in other, as we got further along in the shoot I, I kind of expended, like, I was using this show to get out a lot of my grief and sadness on that, 'cause she ...

This is a cat.

Right.

She can't stop behaving badly, because I don't think she knows what else to do.

Everything else feels, it's like when you're so far gone off the deep end where you're like, "I can't do anything right, so nothing I do will be right, and therefore I'm just gonna do everything wrong." Um, but I think that this is probably her first moment where she goes to Aubrey sh- is her trying to turn it around and-

I love that movie so

much.

Classic.

It's so good.

It's just like, it's so good.

Also, I mean, catch and release is great.

And obviously Tim is in this show too.

Was there any specific type of acting advice that you learned from Jennifer, something that she shared with you or something that you observed?

... and we're talking about mom empathy.

Yeah.

My mom's mom passed away when she was little.

And then your mom's mom passed away.

And when I was little, her dad passed away.

Now she's lost my dad.

She's lost everybody but me.

Do you guys feel that way? And when was the moment when you first discovered you had mom empathy?