Is this data, is this readily available? Do we know what will reduce emissions? What low embodied carbon materials are? And is there a register or something like that to help understand

these things? The market is really improving in this area over the last couple of years.

There's been a big push in emissions disclosures of products.

So there are these certifications or product declarations called EPDs, environmental product declarations, where an organization can get a third party verified declaration.

document which outlines the emissions associated with a specific product.

And that's seen as the gold standard in terms of data for people to make decisions on.

But I think there's all ends of the spectrum.

Hannah, what are your thoughts on this?

And Hannah, was that your dream from the beginning too?

I always wanted...

I definitely wanted a house, but when we started dating, that was, like, a very big topic, um, and, like, subject on his mind, was like, "Okay, hey, this is, like, what we're gonna do.

This is my c- this is my dream." He actually took the Dave Ramsey course when he was, like, 15 or something.

And so it was like, "Okay, this is what we're gonna do.

This is how we're gonna set up our life," and I was, like, all for it.

My, in college, my, like, number one, uh, social media was Pinterest and all the home stuff, so I had this far-out dream, I thought it was far out, of, um, yeah, owning a home and getting to, like, do little things to it.

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Are you at realtor.com seeing that as a big issue? Is that a big driver of this, or is it really overshadowed by all the other issues?

So we saw that, you know, mega investors, corporate investors, you know, they're defined as investors who have bought more than 350 properties.

Um, and we've, we saw that those types of investors were very, very common, or, I would not, I won't say very, very common, but I will say relatively more common in the market during that pandemic-era heyday when, you know, you could re- you know, they could use their access to cash or their access to, um, capital and buy up homes and turn around and be able to take advantage of how rents were rising.

And, you know, we saw a lot of activity in that 2020 to 2022 period.

But since then, as the housing market has really taken a turn and we've seen increased rental inventory, lower rents, we have seen that those investors have pulled back very significantly.

So now they are a almost vanishingly small portion of the housing market in terms of, you know, home purchases.

So, you know, their existing stock may be very large in certain neighborhoods or certain areas, but when we're, you know, pulling it up to the aggregate and looking at the national level, um, you know, investors are not the main battle that we're fighting here.

Is, is this evidence of one aspect of the American dream being pushed out of reach, um, at least temporarily, or, or is that really reading too much into it?

Are you at realtor.com seeing that as a big issue? Is that a big driver of this, or is it really overshadowed by all the other issues?

So we saw that, you know, mega investors, corporate investors, you know, they're defined as investors who have bought more than 350 properties.

Um, and we've, we saw that those types of investors were very, very common or...

I would not, I won't say very, very common, but I will say relatively more common in the market during that pandemic-era heyday when, you know, you could re- you know, they could use their access to cash or their access to, um, capital and buy up homes and turn around and be able to take advantage of how rents were rising.

And, you know, we saw a lot of activity in that 2020 to 2022 period.

But since then, as the housing market has really taken a turn and we've seen increased rental inventory, lower rents, we have seen that those investors have pulled back very significantly.

So now they are a almost vanishingly small portion of the housing market in terms of, you know, home purchases.

Is, is this evidence of one aspect of the American dream being pushed out of reach, um, at least temporarily, or, or is that really reading too much into it?

So final thoughts, do you think, I guess, how do you think that Alex Cooper comes out of this? Or like, what would you, if you were her PR people, what would you advise?

I mean, I think that Alex Cooper courted a audience that is not moral purists.

It's not like she's ever taken a hardcore, positive, progressive stance before.

I mean, interviewing Kamala Harris is one thing, but they didn't talk about policy.

And I think there's a lot of reasons for that.

Like they didn't talk about any of the few policy moments where Kamala was taking a hard progressive stance like on the actual.

I think abortion is probably the only case.

We're no contact with Aziz.