Hanina bar Hama

But that's not a precedent for all of us.

Rather, Rabbi Yossi, Rabbi Hanina says, Right? With your great chesed.

I'll come to your house.

Right? I will bow to the heichal, to the holiness, with fear.

That's the only time I ever remember davening Mussaf, uh, be yechidus, in private.

Uh, "Yasi Rabbi Chanina kara kamei de Rabbi Yannai." All right? So Chanina is sitting before, um, Rabbi Yannai.

"Be yasi," but come on, he sits and he says, "Halacha kRab Yehuda she'amar mishum Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya." Right? The halacha is indeed like Rabbi Yehuda said in the name of Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya.

"Amar lei." He said to him, "Puk kreik rachach levara." Like, go out and, um...

So again, we're in the land of Tumantav, purity and impurity, where the givens and the baselines are not all clearly established, at least not yet in my mind, in terms of being firm with them.

However, what is clear here is that the position of Yirmiah, which is talking about purification of the liquid, seems to be is called into question here because of the way the ashes themselves here would not render other ashes impure so ravzimi answers It says, well, that was talking about the Mishnah where Rabbi Yossi, the son of Rabbi Hanina, said that the mixture is pure in that it does not impart impurity through contact.

And this is important, that distinction between imparting impurity through contact, so you can treat it as pure.

But then he says, hang on, it does impart impurity through carrying.

The Gemara is going with the premise, that for sure or not, everything we said above, Rabbi Kiva has to agree to.

So Rabbi Hanina says a brilliant thing, something we never spoke about until now.

What happens if you bought an animal, and we know, we don't know tinuf.

We even know there was no tinuf.

He was an Amora who lived at the end of the third and the beginning of the fourth centuries of the Common Era, that is the late 200s and early 300s of the way that we count years in the West today.

He was born in Bavel and he moved to Israel where he became a student of Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Chanina.

But perhaps the most important influence on his later career, in particular in politics, was through Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi, who was noted as a profound and skilled negotiator with the Romans.

And it's believed that perhaps from Yehoshua ben Levi, he received, Rabbi Chiyya bar Abba received the kind of skills that he would need for his later diplomatic missions throughout the Near East.

But you can't do that if it wasn't even so sanctified to begin with because, again, it came from an animal that was already disqualified.

But in Israel, they said in the name of Rabbi Hanina, what you do is before you redeem the mother while she's pregnant, you say, "I'm going to move the sanctity of this fetus onto a different animal," right, that will be designated for...

You're, you're basically saying you're not actually moving it yet, but you're saying, "I'm designating this animal for the sacrifice its mother was worthy of," okay? Before it's redeemed.

Now, so there's this machloket about it.