Han Bennink

On that point of the drumming, I love that it's a very minimal drum set.

About the smallest drum set you'll see from a metal-ish drummer, six pieces.

I remember seeing Cryptopsy, and it was like that thing had its own zip code.

It was...

from the outside, right? Which is...

I think it's even hard for Barata to understand, but it's when the guy sits on the drums there, which has so few parts, the person no longer expects those who are watching expect much less from what he will perform.

So much so that he mentioned the Cryptopsy thing, those super drummers who want to demonstrate a lot of technique, and they fill it with pieces, they fill it with things that sometimes you...

I myself only notice when I see that drum cam at the show, in the music, you can't even notice.