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But I, I felt key part of, of the team, and I, I think it was really recognized.

And the thread to Blackstone then is Tony James-

Yeah

... who had been the president of DLJ during that period, had invited me to interview here when Blackstone filed to go public.

It was kind of a chilly day.

I came in, I met with Steve at 3:00.

I was supposed to meet with Tony James at 4:00, but Steve wanted to continue to talk and so he said, "Come with me," and I didn't take my coat or anything.

I had no idea where we were going.