I don't want to say every year after that it won't be as significant because maybe that's not true, but something feels extra significant about 25.

It does.

It does.

It feels further away from us, but also a very distinct memory.

And to really know the stories of the people who were in the World Trade Center that day, who were in the Pentagon, I mentioned I was at American University.

That's not far from the Naval Observatory.

And Vice President Dick Cheney was hiding out on my college campus.

Do you wish you would have carried that on a little bit more? What happens now?

Tell me about that.

You know, look, it was interesting to reflect up here with so many incredible community members, you know, such gratitude and recognition to Sheriff Bouchard for putting this together for this memorial we have here in Oakland County.

And yes, it's 25 years.

I kind of reflected that America's experience of 9-11 is officially, officially grown up.

And that my freshman year of Congress was the 18th anniversary of 9-11.

And, of course, I was 18 years old when 9-11 happened.

And I was a freshman in college.

Do you wish you would have carried that on a little bit more? What happens now?

To what extent is that going to be affected by these tariffs? And to what extent do you think that creates political risk for the Republicans?

Well, look at the Wall Street Journal even saying that Ford Motor Company is being totally put on the line.

You know, I was deeply proud to stand behind President Biden when we passed in a bipartisan way the Chips and Science Act.

Yes, it was the effective use of taxpayer dollars.

It was your taxpayer money that got a huge return on it.

And Now, all we get from industrial policy from these guys is these erratic tariffs.

We don't know what we're going to wake up to.

Do you think it's a disadvantage now to take money from AIPAC? Do you wish you hadn't? And just tell us your plans for helping him out or not helping him out ahead of the midterms.

Would you call on Abdul al-Sayed today to moderate on any specific issues?

Well, look, you know, it certainly makes sense to get rid of this Hassan Piker affiliation.

I'm calling on that.

I've continued to call on that.

My friend and mentor, Keith Williams, who is a Detroiter, who is chair of the Michigan Democratic Party Black Party.

caucus.

You know, he and I spend a lot of time together, you know, brainstorming, putting down some of these, you know, how do we build the American dream notions here in a place called Michigan? And look, any day of the week, You know, the Democratic plan, you know, if you're Alicia Slotkin or Abdul, you know, your plan for health care is better than Mike Rogers.

Do you think that he needs to say anything specifically to reassure Jewish voters, black voters, Reagan Democrats, that he is going to serve their interests? You know, what what has he done basically to earn their support and earn your endorsement other than winning the nomination?

You

know, I haven't ruled out running again, but gosh, that is a way, way distant future.

I want to see Democrats get through the 26 election cycle.

I am a house member.

That's where I've been successful.

And in terms of my electoral politics, and I'm really eager to help Christina Hines and Hillary Scholten out west, Christian McDonnell Rivet in the Flint Bay City area.

You know, there's just some great Democrats running.

Do you have any concerns about Abdul being the nominee? And do you have any concerns about where the Democratic Party is headed here, given how much support you did receive in the election?

You

know, I haven't ruled out running again, but gosh, that is a way, way distant future.

I want to, you know, see Democrats get through the 26 election cycle.

I am a house member.

That's where I've been successful.

And in terms of my electoral politics, and I'm really eager to help Christina Hines and Hillary Scholten out west, Kristen McDonald Rivett in the Flint Bay City area.

You know, there's just some great Democrats running.

Do you have any concerns about Abdul being the nominee? And do you have any concerns about where the Democratic Party is headed here, given how much support you did receive in the election? know,

I'm just curious how you're reflecting on last night's election results in your neighboring state of Wisconsin in which Democrats chose a moderate candidate, someone more like yourself, instead of a progressive candidate more like Abdul El-Sayed.

Well, okay, to be very clear, I do not know Crowley or Hong.

I've never met him.

But, um, I, you know, am watching the news, I'm seeing what's going on.

I've, I've been reading about him, and I just think s- very similar to my race, this is the best of democracy.

You know, the people are coming out to vote.

Uh, it, it was a, an exercise, an enthusiastic election.

What more are you doing to ensure he beats the Republican candidate, Mike Rogers, in November, and what do you say to those undecided voters who feel El-Sayed is too extreme?

Mm-hmm

... who's a Republican from Arkansas.

Uh, we coordinated regularly with the hostages held in the, the families of the hostages held in the Hamas tunnels.

That was a brutal situation.

You know, I...

Look, all Americans want long-term peace.

I, I don't think that's, you know, hard to come by.

Do you think that the Democratic Party is really taking these lessons to heart, or do you think they're continually making the same mistakes, especially in these primaries?

I

hadn't seen it.

The New York Times practically moved to Michigan while we were doing this primary.

I mean, they were here every other day, but...

Jeez Louise, look, everyone's got their different focuses.

I am very focused on making sure that we protect and expand Medicaid.

I am very focused on making sure that we do voting rights.

How much are you going to be on the trail appearing next to him as we move forward?

Do you have concerns that some of those moderate voters who turned out for you could, in fact, vote for Mike Rogers, and what's your message to them?

Well, look, the beauty of the primary is all the views have been aired out.

Everything that needed to be said was said.

We had a long, amazing American, uh, democratic process.

We nominated our candidate.

We got through it.

The votes were cast.

What does El-Sayed need to do in order to reach out to, to court some of those Black voters who threw their support behind you? How do you make sure they don't stay home on Election Day?

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... maybe longer than I've been running, and I- I'll tell you this.

Everything that needed to be said in the primary was said.

All right? I'm a Michigander.

You know, the differences were aired out.

And, and look, we all know it's a, a, a, a Big Tent party.

That's the Democrats' mantra.

Have you resolved where Abdul El-Sayed stands on those issues? And when he said as he did yesterday that his priority for Jewish Michiganders is just as much as it is to protect his own children, do you believe him?

Why do you believe you're the best candidate for this job?

Well, first of all, Reverend, it is so great to be on the show with you.

I'm glad you're doing well.

Glad to see you out.

And also, I got to tell you, I was with Dr. Charles Williams.

He was... you know, out there endorsing my campaign, giving a great speech in Detroit.

You know, the National Action Network, you know, is alive and well, very powerful here in Detroit.

Can you talk about your work for the auto industry in Michigan and also respond to some of the criticism that perhaps you have somehow misrepresented that part of your resume?

You know what I'm saying? How are you going to help the voters of Michigan?

Yeah.

And this is tireless, you know, dogged work.

It's unglamorous, which is actually a point I was trying to make last night.

Like, I'm not here for celebrity.

You know, I'm just leaving the floor of the house at 11 o'clock at night after a long vote series and then back at it first thing the next day, working on legislation, working on lowering costs for Michiganders.

And It's more than just slogans, right? When we see the cost of food going up and up and up, we can do no blanket tariffs on groceries.

Why is that an issue for us? This is the most beautiful state in the country, in my opinion.

You know what I'm saying? How are you going to help the voters of Michigan?

Yeah.

And this is tireless, you know, dogged work.

It's unglamorous, which is actually a point I was trying to make last night.

Like, I'm not here for celebrity.

You know, I'm just leaving the floor of the house at 11 o'clock at night after a long vote series and then back at it first thing the next day, working on legislation, working on lowering costs for Michiganders.

And It's more than just slogans, right? When we see the cost of food going up and up and up, we can do no blanket tariffs on groceries.

you a nerd, but you know, I'm just, I'm calling myself a nerd.

Is there legislation you would propose or support that would fix a health care system that a lot of people experience as broken? Yeah,

Michiganders haven't just dropped out, they've been pushed out.

And they have gotten screwed over by Donald Trump and the tax bill that gave $70 billion to ICE, gave a tax write-off to billionaires and slashed the tax subsidies.

We can also look at what's going on with Medicaid, which has been unconscionable and wrong.

I want to see us expand Medicaid.

I am very proud to have taken on pharmaceutical and drug companies to cap the price of prescription drugs, particularly insulin, at $35 a month.

And I'll tell you about that.

What can one senator do

Is there legislation you would propose or support that would fix a health care system that a lot of people experience as broken?

Yeah, Michiganders haven't just dropped out.

They've been pushed out.

And they have gotten screwed over by Donald Trump and the tax bill that gave $70 billion to ICE, gave a tax write-off to billionaires, and slashed the tax subsidies.

We can also look at what's going on with Medicaid, which has been unconscionable and wrong.

I want to see us expand Medicaid.

I am very proud to have taken on pharmaceutical and drug companies to cap the price of prescription drugs, particularly insulin, at $35 a month.

What can one senator do

Do you think that voters view the establishment as unwilling to fight and is support from the perceived establishment now a negative for primary voters?

Well, I think that Michiganders and voters in general have every right to be frustrated.

They have every right to feel left behind because Donald Trump is using the Oval Office as a stock trading floor, that people go into these offices and get rich.

They're trading stock.

I don't trade stock.

I think we should ban it.

I have written some of the most comprehensive legislation to stop this level of corruption.

How would you characterize the remarks you were making then and what impact does this have now?

El-Sayed?

Well, look, in the House of Reps, I've been recognized as Michigan's, uh, most effective lawmaker.

I take on tough challenges and I win.

I'm so proud to have four-term, uh, US Senator Debbie Stabenow supporting me in this race, the mayors of Grand Rapids, Lansing, and Livonia, people who fight for Michigan and win for Michigan.

And I'm ready to take on these tough, complex fights in the United States Senate.

Donald Trump is completely out of touch with Michigan.

Look, he started a trade war with Canada.

Do you see Israel's conduct of this war as within the law of proportionality of international humanitarian law?

Space infrastructure has become a new front in the US-China rivalry.

China is aggressively making investments in our hemisphere, particularly in Latin and South America.

Also, partnerships that they have made with Caribbean nations to have aerospace applications, satellite demonstrations, civilian applications, also with military application components to it.

Congresswoman Haley Stevens of Michigan is a member of the committee.

This is a call to double down on the way our system works.

And so we don't want to be ceding ground to China.

We don't want to see them, uh, continuing to eat our lunch, uh, with our neighbors, and we can win this race.

This isn't some abstraction.

No, and there's $1.3 trillion of credit card debt in this country.

There are people who are putting grocery bills on credit cards and then paying interest on them.

Uh, we are in an affordability crisis.

Coffee is up 20%, beef is up 16%, bacon is up over 10%.

Give me a break.

And now we're gonna see the healthcare costs, uh, skyrocket.

Um, when is the primary? And talk to us about kind of your pitch to the voters that sets you aside from the other candidates.

This isn't some abstraction.

No.

And there's $1.3 trillion of credit card debt in this country.

There are people who are putting grocery bills on credit cards and then paying interest on them.

Uh, we are in an affordability crisis.

Coffee is up 20%.

Beef is up 16%.

Um, when is the primary and talk to us about kind of your pitch to the voters that sets you aside from the other candidates.