Could you walk us through a little bit more about how this leads you to advocates?

Sure, yeah.

So I'm a heart failure cardiologist, which means that we take care of patients who have really crippling heart disease.

And there are so many things that we can do as heart failure cardiologists.

We can do heart transplants, we can do LVADs, which are these mechanical pumps that essentially replace the heart, and patients can sort of live with them for several years.

But the fact is that by the time a patient has heart failure, you've kind of already lost, right? I mean, there's so much you could have done before they even had heart failure that could have even prevented them from being that sick to begin with.

One of the things that drew me to heart failure was the fact that this is a field that we have a lot of clinical evidence.

So for listeners who haven't yet seen the Advocate innovative solution opening, can you give us the program in your own words? What does a successful Advocate clinician standard actually do for a patient with advanced heart failure that currently the model cannot, the health system can't?

So in kind of plain terms, what are you asking these teams to build?

So I work at ARPA-AH, which is the Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health.

We are a funding agency, and our goal is to fund transformative advances in healthcare.

We don't do research ourselves.

What we do is that we build programs, which are really visions of the future that we want teams out there to take a stab at and build.

And the advocate program, the vision, is really born out of my own experience as a clinician.

During the pandemic, I was here in Boston.

Why is that? Why no human?