Guy Lyon Playfair

She would get books for me, so my dad could bring them home.

So I was immersing myself in print media, um, to learn from people, the likes of Peter Underwood, Lloyd Awerback, um, Guy Playfair, Andrew Mackenzie, all these people who had written books that were, um, you know, journalists or very skilled in a particular area.

And I started investigating.

I joined the academic societies from a young age.

I mean, I'm intrigued by that kind of situation where I think there are occasions and cases where it seems as though the fear being ramped up is the catalyst for events to get even more out of hand.

And I know Guy Lyon Playfair said, obviously used to consider what, as I say, some of the things he worked on when he was in Brazil and Enfield and into the 80s.

By the late noughties, when I had the privilege of speaking to him a couple of times, he'd kind of gone across into this sort of energy You know, it's certainly something, as I'm sure you're very aware of, Caroline, because we've spoken about this.

It certainly pushed me towards something more to do with physics and energy than I think it's to do with... people's psyche now that's not to say that you that it's got to be one or the other because this is the other frustration i often have is that if it doesn't have certain ingredients people go oh well it can't be that kind of case but why can't it why can't it be like that you There are different ways.

According to one eyewitness, they observed objects moving through the air, and one photographer was allegedly struck in the head by a piece of Lego.

All of this caught the attention of Guy Lyon-Playfair, a British paranormal researcher, and Maurice Gross, a member of the Society for Psychical Research.

The two made hundreds of visits to the house.

where they recorded and documented conversations, disturbances, and audio recordings, nearly 200 hours worth.

They'd said the same.

yeah the girls were faking stuff there's no doubt about it they were they were causing stuff they were mucking about but underneath that there was genuine paranormal events occurring which they couldn't fake not two girl one preteen one teenage girl couldn't possibly be faking there was something happening but there was so much hype around it so much speculation so many stories being told i mean again i'm afraid the warren's another good example their version of what they did there, compared to what Guy Lyon played for, and the other chap there, his name's skipping for a second, said they were doing it, is very different.

So it's telling the truth, and you are left with that mystery of, well, what really happened? Because these people all claim to have been there and given very different stories, but there are overlaps in the stories suggesting they've been there.

truth behind what they did what they saw and experienced but and gets into the media gets bent completely out of shape and then you have things like the conjuring which admittedly is a fictionalization but i've had online discussions about that film and people have a search oh no no that film was accurate that's what really happened there and i'll say to all i interviewed glide blind play family tell me this they will say how do you know he was there you're saying they weren't there how'd you know he was there he wasn't certainly there absolutely it was there but you know they're saying well how do you know he's telling you the truth so it gets into all that again it is getting into the reality of what really happens a lot of these bigger paranormal cases becomes very difficult it all gets muddied and completely confused i

I've actually just remembered one part of the thing that Kyle and I were saying about the Visitation, shall we say, to the Enfield experience at Enfield Haunting.

I'm not for working today for some reason.

Ed turned to Guy Lyon and said quietly, there's money to be made out of this.

He's like, that says everything.

A bored or opportunistic spirit simply joined the game and wore the costume they offered.

Dark Magic in Brazil Guy Lyon Playfair reached Brazil by a different road.

After Cambridge, he taught in Rio de Janeiro, then stayed on as a journalist.

Around 1971, a neighbor, the American actor Larry Carr, led him to spirited circles and to a healer named Erivaldo Silva, working in a poor quarter of the city.

You know, you could find, uh, information primarily in books.

So, um, it was a very formative age when I discovered the works of writers like Peter Underwood and Colin Wilson, you know, um, Guy Lyon Playfair, uh, D. Scott Rogo, people like that.

And I grew up wanting to read more of those kind of books, and I ended up writing them.

Um, but really it all stems from my grandparents owning a haunted place.

He spent several weeks inside the house, documenting activity with microphones and cameras.

Grosse also worked closely with fellow investigator Guy Lyon Playfair, whose background as a journalist allowed him to craft a compelling narrative for the media.

Together, they published findings that were met both with enthusiasm by those open to the supernatural and ridicule by a growing number of skeptics.

Skeptics like Anita Gregory and John Beloff, who later co-authored works on paranormal claims, questioned the legitimacy of the reports from the start.