Grey College, Bloemfontein

The moral victory is South Africa's.

did what the box in 1996 weren't able to do to sean fitzpatrick's invincibles and they won more tests on home ground than their opposition and the scrum played a significant role in that it's something i spoke about with on friday afternoon with robbie kemson a former loose and tight head for the box, director of rugby at Grey College at the moment.

That was some scrumming and that was some refereeing of the scrumming.

Robbie, good afternoon.

I just think it was him expressing the fact that, you know, that was pretty much the winning try.

And the way they managed to go about that winning try, I think, is what you saw that expression come from.

Thank you very much to Robbie Kempson, former loose head and tight head front row of the Springboks and for Franchise Rugby and Overseas and director of rugby and coach of Grey College in Clareberga.

Thank you very much, Robbie, for chatting to us today and last week.