Gregg Nunziata

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Checks and Balances Podcast.

My name is Gregg Nunziata, executive director of the Society for the Rule of Law Institute, and your host for a weekly conversation about law, liberty, and the threats to both in America today.

My guest this week is Nuala O'Connor.

Nuala is a board member of the Society for the Rule of Law, an attorney, a public policy professional, a seasoned executive, and a longtime pioneer of rule of law issues in the technology space.

Yeah, and so, and I focused on norms because Robert Jackson was of a tradition that recognized, right, because he recognized, he said, all we have, not all we have, all we have are these expectations of how people will rule.

But if somebody could pick up that weapon under the right conditions and help create those conditions, then we're in trouble.

And then Hitler had a cult of personality.

Donald Trump is a cult of personality.

You know, that's like, I don't know.

By the way, there's, I don't know if he's here yet.

There's somebody speaking tomorrow, Greg Nunziata, who knows J.D. Vance.

I would ask him that question tomorrow.

And it wasn't just Democrats who offered criticism of the moment.

Conservative lawyer Greg Nunziata writing on Simply, how embarrassing for the U.S., I mean, there is like a level to the response to President Trump at this point of like, okay, he's just going to act out and like we're supposed to accept it.

But when you think about the relationship and the serious situations on the table between an authoritarian leader that we constantly criticize, and then you think about the way that we behave and have shown less and less decorum in Trump's second term on on how we treat officials.

And not to say that other administrations didn't argue or debate or say things about one another, but I think it gets to the point where other countries are also laughing at us.