Green growth

And again, we think that's critically important.

Our kind of build on that is we want green growth in every postcode.

And we see that as taking two aspects, nature being absolutely critical to the resilience of our communities.

And we saw that in the summer, but also the green jobs of the future and the vital importance of young people, particularly given a million young people unemployed.

of actually creating the new green jobs of the future, building our nature and climate resilience.

So I think we're positive today about his speech, but we also believe there's the opportunity to go farther and faster on nature and climate.

And for you then, do you think a winning ticket for him is to really push that green re-industrialization agenda, green growth, green jobs? Is that what he needs to do next?

Yeah, I think it's a really good opportunity.

In the EU and in the US, emissions have been reducing while the economy has been growing, but people still question whether such decoupling can continue quickly enough.

So what is the EU's stance on this? Is the EU trying to create green growth through, for example, technological innovation, or is there also some focus on reducing consumption and changing people's behaviours? Both

of them.

It's from one side to, as I mentioned, circularity sharing, so to create more sharing of the product so that less people can buy or own just one product.

To be able to move, uh, the minerals, uh, around, there must be the road infra- infra- infrastructure network as, as well.

So for, for us is to ensure that as an, as an institution, we support private sector and also the public sector in taking advantage of this opportunity of critical minerals and the green growth economy.

Mem' Msako, before I let you go, I wanna take a look at one of the areas that you finance from a business perspective, and that is municipalities.

For many, many finance institutions, municipalities have become a headache.