GRB Studios

was brutal.

where a lot of people paul schmidt fell off the gondola and his recovery was brutal they wanted to be smooth and everything as opposed to no lean into the character lean into here we go even if it's lighter material the challenges every good story talking from a writer's standpoint every good story is built on challenges or conflict and surprises Anytime, you know, my buddy Reed Shelley, and I want to give him a shout out because he was also a director on one of the reality series I worked on when he was doing a lot of that for GRB Entertainment.

You know, he would just say, you know, he'd just say, you know, you got to lean into you got to lean into why the good give a shit factor about this.

You can't just go with melody and everything.