Grant Shapps

And the desperate globalist carnage obviously aligns with that.

You know, let's just dismiss Grant Shapps.

He's absolutely irrelevant.

Nobody cares what he thinks about anything.

Okay, onto g- birthday number eight.

Birthday number eight, the Conservative MP for Welling and Defense Secretary from '23 to '24, Sir Grant Shapps.

Sir Grant Shapps.

Sir Grant Shapps.

Yeah.

And when [laughs] we were young, we went to see Blue Peter live.

Sit down, Shapps.

Yeah.

question.

But I was in the energy department for 18 months during the energy crisis for Jacob Rees-Mogg and for Grant Shapps.

But also, I think there's a lot of...

A GP's job is never being an expert is explaining a lot of difficult information from specialists to the public and vice versa the other way so I was asked by the team by Kemi's team to say would you go in and help with our messaging as we go forward if there's a general election or be it you know next month or in two years time to explain what we're doing why our energy policy is the way it is and how do we balance that out so that's what I've been brought in for so it's quite exciting.

Yeah, because I know there is a government thing saying you need, I don't think it's 100 tins of beans, but it's like a week's worth of food, maybe? Yeah,

but I don't want the moderate, like, this is what Grant Shapps said we should have.

Oh, you want hardcore, you want the zombie apocalypse basement.

What do the people who speak to John Ronson say we should have? And then let's find the happy medium of, like, the best gadgets.

Maybe talking things up might be worth a 0.1% of GDP or whatever.

But, but as you say, Shapps, hope that's unfulfilled is much worse than realism that, that leads you to sort of modest gains.

So who was the last politician who kind of offered hope as part of their pitch? It was Boris Johnson.

Yeah.

... should be a Conservative, and you should not be considered for selection unless you're sat- the people are satisfied that you indeed have genuine political, uh, beliefs, and you should be, you should be satisfied that you also have the integrity and the basic ability to do the job.

Uh, clearly water between her and Reform, but she obviously made a number of changes to her party, one of which is to end candidate selections, and I was the one who reported that Grant Shapps was one of those who'd been blocked from standing again.

But you very much think against the situation and asked for parties recently, talking about the importance of having a broad church.

I mean, tell us why in your thinking.

the rule of law, personal liberty, and so forth, uh, that have survived over the centuries.

And fundamental to the Conservative Party has always been we are a broad church, and that means anyone who's a, in general terms, a conservative and wants to help work with us, we, we, we welcome.

So I find it very uncomfortable if people, particularly those who've already served as cabinet ministers, you know, uh, who's well known, they've been responsible for a very important public service, Grant Shapps, uh, possibly Penny Mordaunt, we are told, the idea that they cannot even be considered as a parliamentary candidate because they disapprove with current policy on two areas, I think is very, very unattractive.

And remember, that doesn't...

I don't know what he is.

there's a few of them, those are, you know, who were around at the time, like Grant Shapps, Matt Hancock, those kind of, they're kind of, you know, I don't know how you describe those people, but, you know what I mean, so, yeah, but, The news is so fast-moving now that you do something about it, the next day it's over.

You know, you get one or two days' longevity out of it.

And if I'm thinking about doing, you know, showing things in six months' time, you know, on a cinema screen or whatever, I don't want people going, wait, who's that again? Who's Quasi Quartang? You know, so it's quite fast-moving.