I mean, with the big workloads, you've got to keep your mental health in check.

For sure you do.

The way I was – someone said this – I can't even remember who this was, but someone said this to me years ago.

You've kind of got to work out, particularly when you're students and you have a little bit more control over your life and what you're doing.

When you're at Parliament, you're kind of walking to the rhythm of Parliament.

The first thing you do is you've got to think about, well, what's important to me? So I'm going to take as read that studying is important and getting your assignments done and going to lectures.

So first thing you should do is write down, OK, here is my lecture timetable.

I mean, it's like a never-ending cycle.

Hmm.

And given the volume of information there is on social media and on the internet, AI can catalog and organize that very quickly.

And so they started looking at what were the campaigns around the Ukraine war 'cause they suspected and could see that Russia was trying to seed narratives into other countries about Ukraine, that Ukraine was corrupt, that, you know, the West shouldn't be spending money on, uh, you know, defending the invasion, things like that, and they found a lot of that was directed at Canada, trying to get people against the idea of money being spent on the Ukraine war.

What they found at that point was another topic had entered the discussion as well, Alberta separatism.

And so they started tracking that late last year, and they found within a span of about a few months 67 examples of what they deemed to be foreign influence-type material.

These are articles or memes or things on social media that could be passed around, potentially YouTube videos, faux documentaries, things like that, that are designed to essentially change hearts and minds in a population.

And they saw that material targeted at Alberta separatism, and so they thought, "What if we took this AI that's tracking disinformation ar- around the Ukraine war and trained it to look specifically for issues related to Alberta and the separatist movement?" And that leads us to the two reports this week.

To end here, Grant, how prepared are Alberta and Canada to deal with all of this disinformation?

... decide that, "Hey, look, I've had enough."

Yeah, and look, this is the thing, like I, I mean, all of the things you describe were what was going on, and I did feel a real sense of obligation, you know, that I'd been part of this team for a long period of time.

I knew there was a big expectation that if Jacinda stepped aside, that I would step up.

I'd actually made a decision the previous two times I'd ran [laughs] for the Labour Party leadership and lost.

After the second one, I just said, "I'm not doing that again." And actually, I was really happy with that decision and really pleased with the role that I was playing.

So I was kinda going against what I both internally felt, and then I was having a conversation with Alf and, and he said, you know, he just looked at me and he said, "You know, you're gonna say yes to this even though you really don't wanna do it." And it was a real light bulb moment.

I thought, he's right.

Why, why was it important for you to be the minister of sport?

So tell us, what moves are you making to expand that base and why? And how are you protecting what makes Otago, Otago?

Thanks, Lana.

Kia ora koutou.

Otago University, for those who don't know, New Zealand's first university established 156 years ago down in the tropical paradise of Dunedin in the southern part of the South Island.

We're one of currently New Zealand's two medical schools, and that's driven a huge amount of who we are, the identity around health sciences and so on.

What really drove us, though, was that when we reset our strategy a few years ago, we decided that we wanted to be a university that was grounded in New Zealand, in Aotearoa, New Zealand, was a university of the Pacific, but it was one that looked outwards.

And when I arrived at the university two years ago, the message I gave as a person coming from politics to the university that, as you said, I'd attended and have very close to my heart was that our mission would only be achieved if we looked out and we looked up.

I could barely get through it without