Graham v. Connor

And that has to do with their reliance on a 1989.

I was still the chief then when Graham V. Connor came out, which said something about, oh, you got to look at what cops do kind of objective reasonableness, the Supreme Court said.

Well, what's that? Well, it means that a cop's kind of, he's kind of scared.

Well, you know, then we understand that you're going to shoot somebody.