Graham Holmberg

Yes.

When you have those people like that, like there's another gym in town, Graham Holmberg, who...

He's a former, I think, games winner, I think, at the very first or second or third year or something of the games.

But he opened a gym in our city, and that community doesn't exist

Let me pull up the internet and like watch people do Fran.

And you're like, Like, I thought I did that pretty fast, but, like, I just watched Graham Holmberg do this in, like, two minutes and five seconds or something in, you know, 10 years ago.

You're like, damn, that guy was going pretty fast, right? And so...

having this sort of like someone who's ahead of you that you can chase right as well as people who are close to you who are pushing you a little bit i think is actually a really important thing for sport development just in general whether this is um like a team sport or like a more individual sport that's kind of based on these like physiological capacity or whatever and so I don't think a lot of athletes are going to build that framework of like where they should be and where they need to be on stuff without some folks around them.

But the first hour, it's amazing.

I went with Graham Holmberg and his dad golfing once and him and his dad had so much fun golfing.

So that was cool watching them golf together.

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