Graeme Jones

You could tell he wanted to laugh, but I'd see loads of times when you'd say stuff and he'd forget for a second as though he was going to laugh and join in and then he'd hold back a little bit.

But I think the good thing we had with Graeme Jones-Bonner, we had that good... you know, thing where Bonner could be the bad one and he'd be the one shouting and he'd be the one who would dictate here and Roberto would step back a little bit and then the football stuff, Roberto would do that.

So that's how they teamed it really well, didn't he, in that way?

Yeah, good cop, bad cop it was.

Again, I think this was a, this was a really good appointment.

You know, Graeme Jones, the sport director at Hearts, um, has a very close relationship with Belgian football actually.

He's very friendly with, uh, Alex Muzio, who's the president of Union Saint-Gilloise, who many people will know, and there's a big link there again with Jamestown Analytics, um, and the Tony Bloom connection as well.

So I think Wouter's enjoying his time, um, in Scotland.