Grade cricket

So, um, yeah, from that played juniors at Woodville, um, through the state squads in the 13s, 15s, 17s, 19s, and, um, obviously, yeah, got a crack at South Australia after that.

But, um, definitely had to toil hard through grade cricket to be able to get that opportunity.

Was it o- always and only cricket? Was there baseball sort of made an entrance there at-

Oh, I did, I did play a bit of baseball as a younger kid, but that was only under 12s, under 14s-

... um, stage of my life.

So, um, I guess there's some similarities between baseball and cricket, um, so you can get some skills for cricket from baseball, for sure.

At one stage there in the grade cricket days at Woodville, I think you were the captain, uh, your brother Aaron was the vice-captain, and your-

Mm-hmm