Gordon Lish

yeah no writers write and at yeah some some editors tinker too much in my perspective over the years i've had some amazing editors and some that i'm like shaking my head like

Well, if they're overreaching, they could end up being like, who was that famed editor who was editing John Cheever and others and Gordon Lish.

He had a tendency to, he had a very heavy red pen and there's all these stories of tortured souls because of it.

Yeah, that would probably have been me.

I mean, the goal of an editor, of course, is not to turn any book into something that the editor has written.

Yeah, let's not Gordon Lish a very handy novel.

Oh, my God, I just saw Gordon Lish.

Let's not Gordon Lish a very...

Airships? Ray?

Small Good Thing? Let's

She was sent by Tina Brown at Vanity Fair to write just an article about it, but she was more interested in the vibes than what was, you know, maybe actually what Tina Brown would have considered reporting.

But then it turned into this book that was then edited by Gordon Lish, and it had kind of a pop-up moment.

It went away, and we had been hearing about it for years and years, um it's like this book is so good you know so we reached out to nancy and we were like can we publish this can we reprint this so it's a 40th anniversary edition of this book that's awesome it's really good it's just like has a lot of resonance i think in terms of like criminal politicians um you know and that sort of thing

kept it like undercover i don't want to know like now we all know It's just like,