GLOBALG.A.P

yeah of course it's not also a matter of of feed performance it's also about a about the sustainability that we have been speaking all the day today.

And for example, I can tell you that Debug, our company, is certified by AFC, BAP, Global Gap.

Also, we are some other certification that somehow those certification that don't have certification yet to have it is because we believe in the certification and also our customers at the sector push us to certify the the feed mill because otherwise we were not able to to sell them so these certifications vip isc global gap are pushing us to source the raw materials for sustainable places it's not only a matter of fine less inclusion of fish meal fish oil it's a matter that the one you have you are buying the one you are searching has to has to come from sustainable part of the planet for example about the soya we cannot buy soya if he's if he is not helping to the deforestation of the forest for example and this is just a couple of examples And that was something that was not in the table of the decision 20 years ago, but now every day we are kind of facing.

And we cannot source raw materials that are not fulfilling or are not aligned with the sustainability because we will lose our certification if we do that.

Yeah, that's a term that I've heard a lot recently is deforestation-free soy.

So it was difficult to then try and serve a customer.

And, but also we, because we're an exporting business, we have, uh, audits for s- like Global Gap, and there are requirements with us just allowing biosecurity issues and things like that just to come into our pack shed.

Yeah, so there was some issues there.

But at the same time, I didn't wanna let my community down.

It's part of you asked me about my history of why I became involved in certification.

So I became very involved in the Global Gap program early on.

And in fact, for the last 16 years, I still act as a technical expert for Global Gap.

And I've been to multiple farms in Australia and New Zealand.

My role is to sit and witness an audit that's occurring and just to bring some sense into the room and to say, whilst this is a requirement that's needed, that's fine, but does it actually make sense and can it be practical and implemented? And so the only way you can keep on top of it, in my opinion, is by being in the system and working with it.