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Oct 1, 2026

Kyungjin KimHOST
2:18
Yeah, because of this groundwork, we're seeing some crazy behavior.
Kyungjin KimHOST
2:22
Z.AI, or Zipu AI, recently had to completely halt the open weight release of its GLM 5.3 coding model.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
2:30
Right.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
2:30
They were about to release the underlying brain of the AI for anyone to download.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
3:26
Not at all.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
3:26
What's fascinating here is the sheer scale of it.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
3:29
In isolated sandbox testing environments like CyberGem, GLM 5.3 achieved an 84.5% success rate in exploiting vulnerabilities.
Kyungjin KimHOST
3:39
84.5%.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
31:55
Cyber lack of security.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
31:57
Anthropic analyzes the cyber capabilities of GLM five point three, which lacks robust safeguards against misuse.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
32:04
I do think there are a meaningful defenses, but it is rather easy to blow past them if you care.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
32:10
They argue that GLM five point three has a meaningful amount of what I call the juice, the ability to create end-to-end exploits.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
32:18
It is a valuable public service to run such tests, but it raises the question of why we have not seen a spike in cybersecurity incidents.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
32:27
I presume the rate is still rising rapidly in the background, but this did not cause a crisis, at least not yet.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
32:34
Partly, I think this post overstates GLM five point three's practical capabilities.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
32:38
This is at best rather weak juice, but that is not a full explanation.
RichHOST
40:11
What, what does that cooperation look like there, right? It's tricky.
RichHOST
40:15
I mean, I think to a certain extent, the Trump administration hasn't talked yet about American open source equivalents to Kimi, to Qwen, to GLM, right? And in part it's because, like, there aren't really that many.
RichHOST
40:28
There's Nvidia's Nemotron model, there's Tinker's Inkling model, right? There's a couple of Neo labs that have some version of a, a frontier model.
RichHOST
40:38
But get this, those are actually models that have been distilled from Chinese models, right? Like Tinker was distilled from, uh, Qwen 2.5.
Greg AllenHOST
33:12
We have DeepSeek, which is probably the best known AI company in China.
Greg AllenHOST
33:17
But ZAI, with its GLM series of models, is really making waves in the open source community.
Greg AllenHOST
33:25
And its latest one, GLM 5.3, appears to be, according to both the U.S. government and Anthropic, sort of a mythos-esque tier of capabilities when it comes to cyber.
Greg AllenHOST
33:39
So let's read a quote from Anthropic's report on the topic.
Greg AllenHOST
33:44
Like Claude Mythos' preview, GLM 5.3 has strong capabilities for autonomously building end-to-end cyber exploits.
Greg AllenHOST
33:53
But GLM 5.3 is unlike other frontier models in that it has been released without meaningful safeguards to limit misuse.
Greg AllenHOST
34:03
So when we say end-to-end, what they really mean is it can not only find the bug, it can actually turn that into a working cyber attack, and it can execute that cyber attack on its own.
Greg AllenHOST
34:15
So GLM 5.3 has been openly available to download for about a full month now.
Jon KrohnHOST
41:59
And I think some people might worry about not having the capabilities they need, but there's not that many use cases where you need a frontier Fable or GPT-6 Astra capability, especially when there are open weight models, Kimi series, Quen series that you could be using and getting so close to the frontier.
Ish ShahGUEST
42:27
GLM is another one by ZAI.
Ish ShahGUEST
42:30
A couple of weeks ago, perhaps a month ago now, many, many, many organizations signed on to letters supporting open models.
Ish ShahGUEST
42:40
The LLAMA series of models for meta back when all of this was kind of getting started, You know, it was the articulation of like, hey, we need open models because we need people to have choice and we need things that people can fine tune.
Ish ShahGUEST
46:14
Because if you also know that you're not paying marginal token costs, right? And empirically, you're achieving the objectives that you sought out to achieve.
Ish ShahGUEST
46:26
And you have evidence that like, hey, I'm not using the tip of the spear frontier model that costs $50 per million tokens of output.
Ish ShahGUEST
46:34
I'm using DeepSeek or I'm using, excuse me, I'm using Quen or I'm using GLM or I'm using one of these Nemotron or Poolside or Inkling.
Ish ShahGUEST
46:43
All of these folks who make these models intended to run on smaller hardware than a full-blown data center, if you do that math, you are very quickly going to come to very short breakeven periods, but you're inclined to use it more because it's empirically solving for your need.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:04
And at the point you just made, Adam, you get OpenAI and Thropic to control it, but we've got ZAI and we've got others who are producing models, local models without cyber guardrails.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:14
I mean, GLM is...
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:16
It's taking off in our industry at the moment because of the reduced cyber guardrails.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:23
So you've got that.

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Dominic WhiteGUEST
52:49
but it allows them to control things a lot more cleanly.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
52:53
It also means you need to understand your problem much better upfront.
Adam ElyGUEST
52:58
Yeah, and you made a point earlier about GLM starting to take off kind of in cyber circles because of, you know, the reduced guard railing and people can rely upon it a little bit more for some of their internal cases.
Adam ElyGUEST
53:12
There's a couple of teams that I talked to that said they want to use models for, you know, detection and response, but guard rails will kick in on some models a little too fast, and they're tuned a little too tight.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:02
So we already have that capability, and the point you just made, Adam, you get OpenAI and Thropic to control it, but we've got ZAI, and we've got others who are producing models, local models without cyber guardrails.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:14
I mean, GLM is...
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:16
It's taking off in our industry at the moment because of the reduced cyber guardrails.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
45:23
So you've got that.

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Dominic WhiteGUEST
52:53
It also means you need to understand your problem much better upfront.
Dominic WhiteGUEST
52:57
Yeah.
Adam ElyGUEST
52:58
Yeah, and you made a point earlier about GLM starting to take off kind of in cyber circles because of, you know, the reduced guard railing and people can rely upon it a little bit more for some of their internal cases.
Adam ElyGUEST
53:12
There's a couple of teams that I talked to that said they want to use models for, you know, detection and response, but guard rails will kick in on some models a little too fast, and they're tuned a little too tight.
Leo LaporteHOST
16:44
If you regulate us, we won't have any competition because that'll kill all the small guys.
Leo LaporteHOST
16:49
And more importantly, I think from their point of view, we've got to stop the Chinese open weight models, which people are using for free instead of us.
Leo LaporteHOST
17:00
I use local models from China that I don't pay for.
Iain ThomsonGUEST
17:05
Yeah.
Leo LaporteHOST
20:25
It's a great, it's great, great
Harper ReedGUEST
20:26
model.
Harper ReedGUEST
20:27
And it would say Chinese model.
Harper ReedGUEST
20:28
We should you can't prove that you own the network.
Jason CalacanisHOST
43:55
I made a chart here before the show here, but here's your sweet spot for the last 100 days of models, which, Freiberg, you did a good job of teeing up.
Jason CalacanisHOST
44:04
And what you'll see is like, yes, the Clods and the Astros up in that right-hand corner cost a lot and they deliver a lot, but then you start going down and you start to see Muse and GLM and Kimmy.
Jason CalacanisHOST
44:15
And then on the left, you start seeing GLM from Z AI, and Mimo, and you're starting to see while the Chinese is all hosted,
David FriedbergHOST
44:22
right, Jake L. I mean, it's important to note, what you're showing here is the hosted price.
David FriedbergHOST
44:27
But if you run it yourself, the cost on some of these is less than 10 cents for a million tokens.
Costin RaiuHOST
16:33
For instance, with local models, evaluating one email can take, let's say, 100 seconds.
Costin RaiuHOST
16:38
With the GLM 5.3 Flash running locally here on two Sparks, the average was in the range of 70 seconds to evaluate one email, 70 seconds.
Costin RaiuHOST
16:49
When in reality, you don't need that full output, like you just need a classification.
Costin RaiuHOST
16:55
So you give it, let's say, 10 options.

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Ryan NaraineHOST
66:07
The world needs open source AI more than ever to defend itself.
Ryan NaraineHOST
66:10
And he documents when they got attacked, the team initially turned to frontier closed source APIs that blocked us because of safeguards, but still can't always tell the difference between attackers and defenders.
Ryan NaraineHOST
66:21
Fortunately, we could use the NVIDIA version of an open source model coming from China called GLM 5.2 by zai.org. And we're very grateful for that.
Ryan NaraineHOST
66:29
I mean, think about the ridiculousness of that.

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