Glenn Lowry

Yeah.

I, I, I, I remember talking to Glenn Lowry once about, uh, what kinda Marxist I was, and I was like, "I'm not the kind of Marxist that thinks that just if we get working class power suddenly things will be solved." We have to figure out what, we have to think through how to overcome the value system.

I, you know, whatever, right? [clears throat] That was it, right? Um, and it's only, so what is it? It's the problem of maybe people just don't very often face difficulties that require them to start over and think in new ways.

They, they, they, they accrue knowledge.