So.

I've been in this industry for a long while now, not as long as some I would, I would argue of course.

Um, but you know, I started off helping small businesses 30 years ago, doing IPO work, you know, taking companies public.

And typically those were small businesses and you get into the finances and you're looking at the growth of companies and those stages that they all try to go through.

When I got into this industry, it was really something where, um, I wanted to start with a bigger outfit and, I won't name names, rhymes with inshmerity.

They're fantastic.

They're a big organization.

So,