Gillian Lynne

Yeah.

Which also is consistent with what Jillian Lynn has said about that moment.

Yep.

Yep.

Privilege and income was a big thing.

I mean, the amount of people that I know, you know, I met Gillian Lynn who made Cats and she was a choreographer for Cats and oh God, another big one.

I'm going to forget the name of it now.

And I remember her being like, you have to say yes to everything.

So how much was told to you, and how much did you, over the course of your multiple years of doing the show, kinda add in? Or did you not even think about it that much?

Um, so we started rehearsing in, in, in this first production that I did with Chrissie Cartwright and, and then we had, I, I had the privilege to, to work with Gillian Lynne, uh, for a week.

Mm.

And I can remember when, um, I was doing another show during rehearsals, and I was not there for, for, for the day that she arrived, but then in the next day I would join for rehearsals and, um, and when I entered the, the room mid-rehearsal, she stopped the rehearsal, and then she was like, "Okay, everybody take a break." And then she came straight up to me and did, like, a, a solo session for an hour.

It was a different version of the Rum Tum Tugger with the same steps.

[laughs]

Does, does having a, a child and being a father change how you approach the, you know, what, you know, what, what's, uh, as, as Gillian Lynne's telling you to, to, uh, how you're shaking your little Rum Tum Tugger all over the place? Like, does, uh, does the pre-kid versus post-kid version differ?

Yeah.

I'm not, I don't love this.

And then the number's happening, and I do enjoy that opening number every time, but the staging is very Gillian Lynn-like of... going for actual feline movement of sort of constant modern ballet dancing.

But there's no structure.

There's no viewpoint.

There is not just Paddington, there is also Matilda.

There is also My Neighbor Totoro, currently at the Gillian Lynn.

On Broadway, you have the new Victory Theater, which sort of specializes in shows for young audiences.

And you have whatever Disney is deciding to do, which currently is just Aladdin.