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Gil Troy

Gil Troy

American historian

Sep 10, 2026

3:38
Coming all together at that news conference by Jessica Tisch yesterday, I mean, it just struck me that this is all coming together as one element of the world on alert.
3:50
It's even more heartbreaking than that because it's quote-unquote easy to blame Iranian terrorists and the Iranian threat.
3:56
The problem is we now have a deep threat from within the United States of America.
4:01
And I've paid taxes in the United States, Canada, Israel, so I can say we wherever is convenient.
4:05
But if you think about it, think about the irony of being a survivor of 9-11, either someone who lost a loved one or someone who actually was injured and survived, and having Zoran Mamdani presiding over the ceremony.
4:21
And he comes from a perspective that is much more, I'm sorry to say, anti-American, much more pro-jihadi.
4:27
And I recently wrote an article for the Jewish Journal basically saying, look at the irony that 9-11 is a catastrophic, cataclysmic, world-changing event that most Americans remember, even those who weren't born then.
6:37
Tell us, Gil, what you'll be praying for.
8:28
N- [chuckles] These people weren't alive back in Durban, right? They know nothing about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and yet they're chanting almost the same thing that Irwin heard back then on the streets of Durban.
8:39
So a number of things.
8:40
First of all, it's a systematic campaign.
8:42
This is not casual.
8:44
This is a campaign that, again, was conceived in Durban because they said, "Oh my goodness, you know, in 1991, the United Nations had undone its great, um, crime of 1975 and had repealed the Zionism is racism resolution." And one of the things they said in Durban is we have to go back to that Zionism is racism resolution, and we have to go back to this template.
9:03
And so since Durban, since 2001, there's been this systematic attempt to push it, push it, push it.
9:09
That's one piece.

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17:06
Mm-hmm.
6:24
[laughs]
6:24
... you know, the more the adjectives, uh, grow, the, the, and, and the fewer nouns and images there are, the more you have to worry.
6:30
Uh, so let's triangulate between three headlines.
6:32
The Wall Street Journal, which tends to be pro-Zionist coverage, says, "Netanyahu finds diminished welcome from Trump as Iran war drags on." And that drags on I think is very important.
6:42
Then as, uh, Shmuel mentioned, uh, "Iran launches surprise missile attack on US forces in the Middle East." And then in The Atlantic, there's a big, uh, article which is making the rounds, which I found quite superficial, but it'll, uh, get traction, um, how, uh, how, how Netanyahu, uh, lost America.
6:59
And I think that kind of tells the story.
7:02
So yes, uh, Bibi came.

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18:46
Um, and what have-- what, what, what should we expect potentially?
0:49
Why are we so grateful as we approach July 4th, 250 years later?
0:54
So I start with my three favorite words, God bless America.
0:57
And I was sitting in a Jerusalem cafe just two or three weeks ago with my friend David Spicer from the Jewish Journal.
1:02
And we were depressed.
1:03
We were depressed because so many Americans even were approaching the 250th anniversary in despair, approaching it through a partisan lens, approaching it through a grievance lens.
1:14
And we said, this is an amazing country.
1:16
I mean, of course, there's criticism.
2:27
For what should we be grateful, even in the larger picture, whether it's Donald Trump or not Donald Trump, in terms of that relationship between our two countries?
8:41
So how do you respond to the alleged vagueness of this term?
8:47
So I would call it perhaps a delightful vagueness with a strong core, a kosher core, let's say.
8:54
And I did take the Zionist idea, which at the time, it was 1959 when Arthur Hertzberg came out with this anthology.
9:02
He was off of 1948, where the one fundamental defining idea of Zionism was we need a state.
9:10
It was also about building a new Jew, but it was about we need a state.
9:13
And writing in 2018, when Israel was already a fact and Nadine and others would say, well, why didn't you just stop it in 1948? That was the Zionist idea.
9:25
So I said, no, well, let's add the S.

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30:03
Did I get that right?
10:47
What did Israelis really think was going to happen here? Did they really think that Donald Trump was going to stick with this for so long and was going to keep going and going and going despite the World Cup, despite the July 4th celebrations, despite the midterms that are coming? I mean, to me, why would we have expected him to do something differently? I mean, Gil, wasn't this
11:08
obvious from the get-go? So let's put three separate narratives on the table.
11:11
And again, this is all information and disinformation and spin and posture.
11:16
The New York Times wants us to believe that Bibi Netanyahu, the evil, manipulative Machiavellian Bibi Netanyahu, came to Washington and sold Donald Trump, poor little Donald Trump who never listens, who's always pushed around.
11:30
and never listens to the beat of his own drum around, and basically sold him a bill of goods, that boom, we hit him hard, we can knock out their leaders, and we will have regime collapse, and Venezuela too will happen in Iran.
11:42
So one narrative is that the Israelis sold the Americans a bill of goods, I'm a little skeptical because there's something called American military intelligence.
11:50
It's not just Israeli military intelligence.

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20:53
They seem like the best of friends, right? The story was these are the guys who nobody can get even a pin in between them, right? And suddenly now, is it really gone sideways? And if it has, or even if it hasn't, Is it a separate track from the U.S.-Israel track, or is this the U.S.-Israel track? In other words, can I look at the Bibi-Trump relationship as one place, and then the people-to-people, the military-to-military, intelligence-to-intelligence as something else?
29:58
in Montreal and schools in Montreal, but, um, what is their story?
30:03
So in the five-hour version, in addition to talking about '45 and '76, which we haven't gotten to yet, you would add '56, because with, uh, with, with the Suez, uh, campaign of 1956, that's when, um, many Jews in Morocco, which is French-speaking, Algeria, and others start having greater crisis.
30:20
I mean, the crisis had started obviously in the early '40s.
30:22
And by the way, we're about to mark the eighty-fifth anniversary of the Farhud, the horrific, uh, pogrom in Iraq, which ends, what, twenty-five hundred years of, of rich Jewish life there.
30:31
So it's, it's, it's growing, but 1956 accelerates the process.But the real story goes to '75, '76.
30:38
So w- w- let, let's get to the, the, the, the, the Sephardic community we made after, after that critical moment in 1976.
30:48
It's the '60s, it's the '70s in America and also in Canada.

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