George Will

I mean, one of the troubles with researching the Kennedys is it's simultaneously they're public figures, but a private family.

So one has to kind of churn through a lot of material and a lot of friends' reminiscences to kind of get into it.

And I think initially, Joe couldn't quite believe that Jack wasn't saying the things he used to say, which Joe agreed with.

And then just slowly, particularly after Jack gets elected to the Congress in 1946, he Joe just realizes, you know, we can argue about it.

Mm-hmm.

When hacks try the same sleight of hand that Steve Schmidt and Matthew Dowd and George Will and Mona Charon and David Brooks and Joe Scarborough.

Joe Scarborough's an independent now.

I heard.

Hey, it's great to be here.

Yeah, I wrote the book because I initially wrote an article because there was a lot of chatter in the press from LZ Granderson, from George Will, and from a number of other people that football shortens lives, that people in the NFL, there was a lawsuit, or not a lawsuit, the NFL Players Association, the union, they had petitioned NIOSH, which is the National Institutes of Occupational Health and Safety, Safety and Health, to do a study, a mortality study on whether football players die young.

And there was a lot of chatter in the press, like I said, from George Will, from Elsie Granderson, from Malcolm Gladwell, from all sorts of people.

Advancing this idea that players in the NFL die at an earlier age.

And I think the reasoning for this was basically that they would see obituaries of NFL players that would die in their 50s and they would say, well, this must mean they die young and not really looking at guys that, you know, lived to an advanced age like Art Donovan or Frank Gifford or someone like that.

So there's a lot of things that go into that that really make it a kind of a duh.

You know, like the best science is sort of like a duh science.

Like, of course, why are we even questioning this? And yet you had people for years who, You know, really? I mean, at the time, George Will, guy I really admire.

But the reality is that this campaign is going to leave a lasting impact on the state of Indiana.

And, you know, as you may have seen just this past Sunday, George Will, noted national political columnist, wrote about this effort in the Washington Post and called this potentially an earthquake in American politics because he understands the long-term ramifications of us being able to provide the threat of competition going forward.

And something he said when he and I spoke really struck me.

As I was explaining this to him, You know, Indiana, other than this past Tuesday, has really been a one party rule state and Republicans dominate statewide in most parts of the state.

We deal with them like adults in a serious way, in a responsible way, and then I think we shift our focus back.

Once we've addressed what needed to be addressed, I think we shift our focus back to, okay, what am I gonna do now in a positive way to move myself forward? Years ago, I read a book by George Will about baseball men at work, and he profiles like a great hitter, a great fielder, A great pitcher and maybe a great infielder and a great outfielder.

And the pitcher was Oral Hershiser.

Oral Hershiser was a great pitcher for the Dodgers back in the 80s.

I think it didn't work, safe to say.

And so as I actually had forgotten that George Will was still writing actively, but he put it better than I could.

Vance represents a potential four-year extension of the nation's slog through a sewer of scabrous rhetoric serving odious politics, and his removal is the precondition for America to have a conservative party at all.

I couldn't have said it better.

But the reality is that this campaign is going to leave a lasting impact on the state of Indiana.

And, you know, as you may have seen just this past Sunday, George Will, noted national political columnist, wrote about this effort in the Washington Post and called this potentially an earthquake in American politics because he understands the long-term ramifications of us being able to provide the threat of competition going forward.

And something he said when he and I spoke really struck me.

As I was explaining this to him, You know, Indiana, other than this past Tuesday, has really been a one party rule state and Republicans dominate statewide in most parts of the state.