George Ogilvie

I think we're seeing both of that right now.

Depends a little bit on the size of the deal, because Barksdale Resources announced new management team, new chairman, George Ogilvie, coming in.

So of Arizona Sonoran, Battle North, and now Hercules Medals fame coming in.

So that financing was multiple times oversubscribed.

Uh, we've spoken about Barksdale in the past.

They announced a $14 million private placement, but a b- a huge appointment, George Ogilvie, who recently took the reins of Hercules.

He's joining as chairman, and, uh, Dave Loton, someone else who we know very well, joining as a director.

A new president and CEO in Chris Stewart.

And there was one story I remember from 2011, and it was a company called Exploration Orbite, and they had halted their stock, and they moved their office, and the stock went from a dollar to $4 or some insane move like that, and then turned out to be a zero.

And so I had a com- a real quick déjà vu moment of like, "Oh my God, this is [laughs] total fraud," right? 'Cause why would you halt your stock? Then, like 20 minutes later, these guys come out with news for the remaining holes, and none of them are good.

And so now, now you're like, "Okay, did they try and hide the news behind an office change?" Then, at like 20 minutes later, [laughs] they announce a $14 million deal where George Ogilvie, as you said, who, who, who had just sold his company for $2 billion, who just took over as CEO of Hercules, all of these things we love, comes on as chairman.

Dave Loton, who just sold his, uh, the thing in Finland for 400 million or wh- whatever the company was called, um, who's, who's a great investor, comes on the board.