Gavin O'Connor

Anyway, let me do the rundown for the movie, and we can talk about it and talk about McTeer.

So we're talking about Tumbleweeds from 1999, directed by Gavin O'Connor, written by Gavin O'Connor and Angela Shelton, who were married when they started writing this about Shelton's own upbringing and childhood.

They divorce- or they started the, uh, writing in 1994.

They were divorced by 1996, but kept writing and, you know, together until they had a finished script.

The movie stars Janet McTeer, Kimberly J.

Brown, Gavin O'Connor, Jay O. Sanders, Laurel Holloman, Lois Smith, and Michael J. Pollard.

Uh, also Noah Emmerich for, like, 15 seconds at the very beginning.

Uh, which this is the year after Truman Show, so it's not like he was, uh...

Right.

And that's why he did that movie with, with, uh, Gavin O'Connor and everything, too.

I mean, that was-

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

100%.

He is an under-

... an under-

... that gives you the opportunity to do something that's human and real.

And it's a lot of crevit- credit to, to Gavin O'Connor, who's a wonderful director and, uh, whom I adore, uh, and was really my partner on that.

And, you know, the studio didn't particularly wanna do that movie, and we had to bring the price way down.

And, uh, but at the end of the day, it was like...

I believe the writer-director.

What? None other than Gavin O'Connor-

...

Nah, I did a Ben Affleck film.

Oh, The Way Back? Gavin O'Connor with The Way Back.

I fucking love him.

I was working with

I was on a roll.

This was all like the same year.

Gavin O'Connor was great.

Great, great director.

I love when we can sit in the silence.

Gavin, I think I mentioned this on text, Gavin O'Connor, who's obviously a good friend of Frank's, who I admire and love as a filmmaker, I was asking him about parenting advice.

And he said to me that something that stuck with me and still does.

He said, the age your daughter's coming into, do more listening than talking.