welcome back to part two of why you can't eliminate stress and what to do instead with dr gary sprouse our conversation last week was so riveting and and uh and deep and we we just touched the uh the tip of the iceberg so here we are part two on uh and we're going to talk about addiction because dr gary sprouse has been uh doing a lot of work on that recently and came across um a methodology around how to address addiction in the book in the realm of hungry ghosts so we're going to sort of do a discussion of that and how addiction is is affecting people in the world and i imagine there's going to be some there's going to be some connections some two-way connection with stress um in this sort of in this sort of yeah in this topic so it'll be good to see the uh yeah the connection the relationship the correlations between those and yeah but gary let's um let's start with um what piqued your interest in around uh addiction recently um it's a big thing in the world obviously you know we see fentanyl in the in the headlines you know these days terrible terrible stories of addiction but yeah what piqued your interest

so a couple things so as a primary care doctor in our country, in the United States, they started allowing us to prescribe Suboxone.

And so Suboxone gets used to help people get off their heroin or whatever narcotic they're on or the opioid they're on.

And so I got certified to do that.

And so I was taking care of a hundred patients with heroin addiction.

And then my wife and I bought an old hotel in our local area and it was literally falling down.

Like it was being held up by two by fours.

What do you think about depression? And do you think that is really detrimental to tell a kid that they are diagnosed with this depression?

of them would be jerks.

They're like, oh, I'm mad at you.

You didn't do this right.

Or the insurance wouldn't cover because you said, all right.

So when I went home to tell my wife about my day, who do you think I told her about? Right.

The two people that didn't go well.

Right.

And there's a

sure so a lot of people carry guilt and regret for years sometimes even decades what does the path out of that look like

Yeah.

Wow.

So when I was writing the book, it's an interesting concept.

I'm writing this book on guilt and regret.

We tend to use them interchangeably.

And as I'm writing, I'm like, wait, these aren't any, they have some similarities, but they're not the same thing at all, right? So guilt is I did something wrong.

So how are self-esteem and stress connected and why does working on one automatically help with the other?