Gary Kurtz

So if you've not listened to it yet, head to that one first, listen to Andy's first episode, and then come back to this one to find out what happens.

So in position one, you had three fly, but specifically Gary Kurtz's Misty Like a Dream.

Yeah.

No, I would definitely still keep that.

But...

Free Fly is actually quite a good example because whereas I would have liked the technical intricacies of that sort of routine previously, now my focus is more on the misdirective and kind of psychological and theoretical things that kind of revolve around it and more to do with subtlety than anything else now, I think.

So even though I love that routine still and I love the Gary Kurtz routine still, I think...

For me, it's more about refinement now performing it than it is, you know, the technical aspects of it.