Gary Habermas

for whom,

like, like exposure therapy involved like, okay, this week don't watch a two hour Gary Habermas interview.

Yeah.

So I deal with these guys all the time.

Sure.

All I would say is if your viewers are interested in getting to grips with some of the different approaches to apologetics, many, many people, when they discover Christian apologetics, what they usually discover is evidentialist apologetics, the sort of, you know, the Josh McDowell approach, the Gary Habermas approach to things.

And they're not aware that actually there are different views.

There are different methodologies that are propounded within the Christian church about how to do apologetics.

material.

Both of these quotations are in the fourth and final chapter of Gary Habermas' 4,000-page resurrection project.

They cannot both be true.

Today we find out which one is.

Welcome to Apologia, where a former Christian takes a look at the claims of Christians.

And today we are at the end of the line for an adventure we started years ago, as I review the fourth and final volume of Gary's oft-discussed magnum opus book series on the resurrection of Jesus.

My name is Gary R. Habermas.

People say, what's your middle name? I say resurrection.

There's a very famous theologian, I think maybe the leading expert in the world on the subject of the resurrection.

His name is Gary Habermas, and he talks about what's called the minimal facts doctrine.

theory of surrounding the life of Jesus, what people agree to.

And of course, what I mean by that is, does the New Testament historically and reliably tell us something about Jesus? The way the New Testament presents Jesus in specific public places around people and events in a second temple period, is all of that true? Did it really happen? And of course, Luke says he investigated the batters that he recorded so that the reader could with confidence understand and believe what is being taught about Jesus.

It's blurbed on the back by Dallas Willard.

Yeah! Robert C Roberts the philosophy of emotions guy he's got a lot of interesting things to say and Gary Habermas it's called being good Christian virtues for everyday life and We've been interacting with a chapter on forgiveness, and I hope it's been a challenge for you it's been great for me to get into this material and I hope you don't feel too bad that You know forgiveness is not entirely in your control.

It does depend on repentance But in a way, it's kind of freeing in a way because.

It makes sense that it would require forgiveness.

Others are attempting to do that as well.

And I mean, you look at Gary Habermas's work and some of J.P. Moreland's work and work of people like Sam Parnia and Bruce Grayson and, you know, Pim van Lommel in over in Europe, people who are just looking at things objectively and trying to make an argument of what is true based on the evidence rather than based on their presuppositions.

Where do you think, Michael, that this evidence gets us? I mean, I'm sure there's some Christians that would love for this just to be like, oh, look, here's Christianity confirmed through these near-death experiences.

Where do you think when you look at what you've seen with near-death experiences, it seems like we're pushing beyond there being just a material world and there is something more like heaven.

Yeah.

Like Dr. Gary Habermas uses it a lot.

Dr. William Lane Craig uses it a lot.

And basically I love this for dealing with skeptics and for, you know, especially even online and stuff, because it's like a, a lot of people will take a top down apologetics, which is I'm going to prove that the Bible The Bible is historically reliable.

You know, it's interesting.

Verse 10 of 2 Kings 22, Shaphan the scribe showed the king, Josiah, saying, "'Hilkiah the priest has delivered to me a book.'" And hey, friend, it's not just a book.

It's God's book, okay? It's the book,

isn't it? I noticed that too, Alex.

And frankly, and we completely give God the glory, we have always wanted Exploring the Word to kind of be, you know, equal parts Bible study, equipping and training, uplifting and hope and encouragement, but preparedness for all of us.

burden myself and everyone listening that that no matter the context we could share our faith confidently in any situation and we just our prayer nothing would thrill us more than for everybody listening to say you know what I'm walking with Jesus I'm living for Jesus as his representative I And, folks, let me encourage you about revival.

Dr. Michael Brown, he's a longtime friend and colleague, Dr. Michael Brown, he has written much about revival.

And I interviewed him many years ago.