Gary Ellis

And the cheapest bike that I could buy was an S&M Challenger.

Oh, you got that off Gary, didn't you, from ECI? Yeah, yeah.

Good deal.

Okay.

You hear so many stories about that sort of stuff.

especially with Haro, it was very much like that.

Because Gary Ellis' parents owned a travel agency.

So you literally spoke to Gary Ellis' senior or Gary Ellis' mum whenever you called to get your flights booked.

But I understand the nostalgia behind it.

But I was always a massive Gary Ellis fan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

i thought ellis was like the don do you know what i mean i thought he was like the godfather of bmx racing and i think racing lost a real personality when he retired um plus the fact that he like he vanished for the sport and he never basically set foot on a track or a bike ever again i think he was a a team manager at nerve for about six months and then he vanished and nobody saw him so so yeah he was a bit of an icon for me gary ellis so you can add him to the mix as well

I saw him in 2022 at Grands.

He was there.

They brought him back for when Joris was when he won his fourth pro title.