Gary Carter Jr.

And so it's really unfair to say that Judge Roche dropped the ball and didn't fight when you all had an agreement and you decided who you would send based on seniority, right? So that was one thing.

The other thing that I still need to fact-check, because you know I'm going to fact-check it, is Judge Burris made it seem that Judge Roche's relationship with Gary Carter was utilized to manipulate the system to determine which divisions of court were going to be eliminated.

Judge Roche said that in the past, when judicial seats have been eliminated, it has been the senior judge's seat to go.

I need to fact check that.