Gary Ablett

I was going to say, being premature, save that for next week.

Gary Ablett, number five, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Chris Burke was a good player, wasn't he, in seven?

So Beardsley you've gotta think of-

Gary Ablett.

Gary Ablett, God rest his soul.

Yeah.

Played with him at Blackpool when he was 34, 35.

Yeah, yeah.

Won a league with Arsenal, um, won the UEFA Cup.

Gary Ablett, league title, FA Cup.

First name of a defender who won the FA Cup with both Liverpool and Everton.

Is that Gary Ablett? Holt Hero famous for his iconic runs from defence.

That would be Matip, I'd imagine.

Manager from 12 to 15, that will be the Brodge.

But for all that, I mean, just roll back a touch there.

I was going about the time you were at Liverpool, because Gary Ablett, who went on to move from Liverpool to Everton as well, won the FA Cup with both clubs, the only man to do that.

He was always very good for you.

Obviously, Gary's not with us anymore, isn't he? But he was always very good with you.

and he used to love going, but I think Phil Neil was still involved in some forms.

I remember getting something from them at the match and watching the legs of John Barnes, Peter Beardsley, Gary Ablett, all that type of team, Glenn Hussain, all the unsung ones.

And at the time, falling in love with going to the match and then, since then I always explain it's like I'm not a massive football fan I'm a massive Liverpool fan I'll go to any game I can and I'll watch us but I tend to not have the time to watch a lot of other football unless it's a massive game and interest in it whereas boxing I'll watch anything I'll watch any fight under boxing

I suppose not just the identity but the love for not just for football but I mean and the relationship that the players had with the community and the fans, and it was a family, whereas football has changed now.