Gareth Thomas

was the Welsh rugby guy, I forgot, oh my God, the ginger, short, short hair.

Gareth Thomas.

Gareth Thomas.

So he was in the show.

So when I got paired against Matt Hancock, I was just buzzing.

But they've managed to reinvent it.

So Guinness ran a campaign several years ago called Made of More, and they featured men, and that campaign was mainly men, who they thought had done special things, and they featured Gareth Thomas, who was the captain of the Welsh rugby team, who came out as being gay.

And they said, "Look, this is inner strength, and this is remarkable inner strength." And so they reinterpreted the strength of Guinness in a way that was relevant for a new generation, but not in a way that was sort of trying to dress the brand up as something it wasn't, but just putting it into a different context, and I think that's what Guinness have done very, very cleverly over the years.

And the other strand of Guinness advertising has been humor.

Never got to represent Wales in Cardiff.

1995, Gareth Thomas made his debut in a World Cup.

Scored a hat trick against Japan.

Um, I perhaps-