Gareth Christopher Stace

Um, and I will come to Godfrey first.

He, he came on the podcast earlier in the year, and we had a great discussion, uh, with Gareth Stace, uh, from UK Steel, uh, just ahead of the introduction of those new rules.

Um, it was really insightful, and I think, uh, probably the outcome, what we actually saw was slightly different to what we might have anticipated at that point.

But, but Godfrey, you, you, you tell me what members are saying, uh, about the fallout or the, uh, or the developments since July the 1st.