Gamification of learning

Today on the show, we're going back to policy amid a lot of attention on the elections unfolding this fall, including on this show, but we'll continue to have plenty of conversations about both policy and politics here We'll be right back.

We're discussing issues related to education and technology, including a push by Councilmember Krishnan and others to ban student access to YouTube in schools and place other major limits on the use of digital devices and education technology products in school, amid growing concerns about screen time more broadly in our society, especially among young people, and interactions with chatbots, artificial intelligence, gamified learning, and more.

We spoke on September 29th, which was exactly two weeks after a city council oversight hearing co-chaired by my guest, as well as council member Eric Dinowitz of the Bronx, who heads the council's education committee that focused on the issue of screen time and digital devices among students, both in schools and at home on Department of Education issued devices.

Councilmember Krishnan has put forward a new six-point policy agenda on this theme, and I'll discuss all six points with him, as well as takeaways from the hearing and his exchanges with New York City Department of Education officials and others who testified.

It seems like you're obviously working on next steps on your agenda.

You're perhaps adding more of a focus on the data privacy side, as you said, to looking at the use of ed tech, um, You want to see more evidence of what's being used and its effectiveness, more guidance and training for teachers.

You're going to be pushing for more reductions of screen time and devices and gamified learning and pushing for an examination at the state level around returning testing to pencil and paper.

Anything else on any of these topics that we didn't touch on that you wanted to mention?